bodybuilder vs. powerlifter

[needsize]

I agree with spatts that some of the best bodybuilders are ex powerlifters. My favourite has always been Franco Columbo, his thickness and proportions were awesome. This is why I try to train for functional strength as well as size, as I believe that they really do go hand in hand. The focus I place on strength training has had huge payoffs in size gains, especially in the core lifts like deads and squats

 

[Deepsquat]

And Platz got his ass handed to him by Fred Hatfield when it was time to do a single. [QUOTE/]

QAnd as I recall, Hatefield got his ass handed to him when they did reps with 600...didn't he eat it at around 8 reps ...Tomm went to around 15???
as the Bulgarian s ay " The body becomes its function "
In other words they both were good at wahat they did, becuase that is what they trained for.

 

[b fold the truth]

Hmmm...interesting thread here.

I don't care much what I look like or what I weigh...as long as I can be strong, fast, and good at the events. Instead of worrying about this tie-in and that tie-in...I worry about isolating my ENTIRE body on EVERY movement to make my ENTIRE body strong and fast.

The biggest difference...diet IMO. People assume that just because I don't really watch what I eat that I don't get enough protien or carbs in my diet... That is WRONG!!!! I get MORE than enough to be exact. I also eat a lot of vegetables, greens, etc...

Yesterday I drove with some friends to eat at a very special restaurant...and I had the Rib Eye steak (a FULL 16 oz, rare) fried potatoes, black eyed peas, sweet potato, beets, fried okra, rolls with sorgham molasses, mac and tomatoes, a TALL sprite and a TALL water. 2 Hours later...I was feeding myself again.

The 2nd biggest difference between a powerlifter and a bodybuilder...the strength athlete trains for speed and athletic performance of some sort. Looking good over performing good...or performing good over looking good. I choose performance because how I look will not make one single difference on how I place on contest day.

I believe that every bodybuilder could gain from training like a REAL powerlifter (head to toe) for at least 4 months out of the year. Time to quit isolating the outer head of the bicep...and time to start isolating the ENTIRE BODY with the squat/bench/dead.

B True

 

[needsize]

. I believe that every bodybuilder could gain from training like a REAL powerlifter (head to toe) for at least 4 months out of the year. Time to quit isolating the outer head of the bicep...and time to start isolating the ENTIRE BODY with the squat/bench/dead.

B True

I totally agree, thats why I stick to as many big compound movements as I can, and dont worry about cable this, and machine that.... I want function along with appearance, this could also be because I come from somewhat of a powerlifting background

 

[collegiateLifter]

You put ANY powerlifter on a cutting diet, and the bodybuilding world turns upside-down.

for what its worth, doggcrapp tended to echo this statement in a lot of the posts he's made.

 

[benchmonster]

Hmm,

Interesting thread. I will weigh in on this one too. I am a powerlifter, and while I do not eat clean (sorry Spatts, I know you have told me to eat better) I am very concerned about my diet none the less.

I eat at least 6 meals per day. I make sure that every single one of them has protein, preferably at least 35 to 40 grams per meal, and then whatever else falls in is fine too. As of this writing I am 238 to 240 lbs. I competed for over a year at 220, and have decided to move up a weight class.

Funny thing is, tho, even tho I am not going to be confused with a bodybuilder, I am not any fatter at 240ish than I was at 220ish. When I wake up in the morning I can see the top 2 to 4 abs outlined. As I eat and drink throughout the day, I see them less and less and by the time I roll into the rack I am a pudgy dough boy once again. Same for when I compete. I am waterlogged and smooth when lifting and that is best for me.

I have shared a couple of meals with Spatts (jealous?) and can attest to her bodybuilder-esque eating habits. But then again, I don't know too many ladies with thighs within an inch or two of my own, who have a 6 pack (this I am jealous of).

As for her training partner, The Project, who by the way eats way more than you would think. He just thought he was a big eater until he got to see Mr. Denny's himself (me) go at it. Ha ha. I can only imagine what going out to eat with DBCooper, or BFold or some of the big fellas here a bouts would be like.

And although it may not look like it, I do in fact train biceps. I find I have much less tendonitis when I train them, and who doesn't want a good looking set of guns. I may be hauling a keg instead of a 6-pack, but I still want some serious pipes to be sticking out of the sleeves of my shirt.

Oh, and Spatts is right re: cutting a powerlifter down and muscle mass. Even tho I am a fat ass right now. At five seven and around 15% bodyfat, if I cut to 5% (if that is possible for me) and lost 24lbs of fat I would be a ripped to the bone 216 lbs at five seven. Not pro bodybuilder stuff, but not too bad for a gym rat either.

B.

 

[TheProject]

As for her training partner, The Project, who by the way eats way more than you would think. He just thought he was a big eater until he got to see Mr. Denny's himself (me) go at it. Ha ha. I can only imagine what going out to eat with DBCooper, or BFold or some of the big fellas here a bouts would be like.

Oh no, I have no illusions about being a big eater.

When I'm around the Okie or Springfield crews, it just amazes me how much they can eat. I saw genemachine and kg18 go to TOWN at Del Taco in St. Louis...that was insane.

 

[louden_swain]

Damn it!!!! I am hungry!!! It is time to search the City of Norman for some food!!!

I am out of here!!

 

[spatts]

I have shared a couple of meals with Spatts (jealous?) and can attest to her bodybuilder-esque eating habits. But then again, I don't know too many ladies with thighs within an inch or two of my own, who have a 6 pack (this I am jealous of).

LOL...I can't tell if that's a compliment or not!

 

[vinylgroover]

It's all about genetics people.

It don't make a crap of difference how or why you train, the difference between one person and another has more to do with their genetics than whether they are a powerlifter or bodybuilder.

If you've got a 38 inch waist, high calves, high lats, poor inherent muscle separation etc, then you'll make a shit bodybuilder......i don't care how good a powerlifter you are.

A good powerlifter will make a good bodybuilder if he or she has the right genetics........they won't make a better bodybuilder simply because they have had a powerlifting background.

At the endof the day, it's all weightlifting.

ALL bodybuilders have used the deadlift, squat or bench at some stage in their career, just as powerlifters have.