2 questions about carbs in food..

[marcu_s]

i was wondering what difference there is between the carbs/fat from popcorn and the carbs/fat from pasta,rice and potatoes....except that there is more fat in popcorn would it be any difference if i changed one meal whit rice to popcorn, talking about the popcorn i pop in the microwave...?

unpopped corn, palm oil and 2 % salt.

2. how much carbs can i expect to get from an averige sallad, whit corn,tomatoes and cucumbers and that.
i know thats and hard question offcourse but lets say a normal size plate....30-60 grams?

 

[marcu_s]

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[joe d]

i was wondering what difference there is between the carbs/fat from popcorn and the carbs/fat from pasta,rice and potatoes....except that there is more fat in popcorn would it be any difference if i changed one meal whit rice to popcorn, talking about the popcorn i pop in the microwave...?

unpopped corn, palm oil and 2 % salt.

2. how much carbs can i expect to get from an averige sallad, whit corn,tomatoes and cucumbers and that.
i know thats and hard question offcourse but lets say a normal size plate....30-60 grams?

your question may require a book to answer lol. it may be easier to help you if you would post your fitness goals. weight loss, bodybuilding...

their are simple carbs and complex carbs. white rice. white potatoes, white pasta are all simple brown rice, sweet potatoes, whole grain, oats are all complex. they are both equaly valuable. imo salads are only good for vitamins, minerals and fiber. these nutrients are also valuable if eaten right.

what are you dieting for?

 

[steve_m33]

the difference is mainly in how quickly your body will convert the carbohydrate molecules to glucose, i.e. the stuff that gets stored in muscles as fuel for work (lifting). Basically, and although this is a bit of a dated explanation, 'simple' carbs get converted into glucose at a much higher rate than 'complex' carbs, and are thus more valuable either during, or right after a workout. it basically comes down to the number of chemical bonds linking the molecules... the more unrefined the carbohydrate is, the more the body needs to work in order to digest it. Also, the quicker the carbs are converted into glucose, along with the amount of carbs ingested, the stronger the insulin spike will be. This basically means that if youre consistently downing simple carbs (candy, soda, white rice, rice cakes, cereal, etc.) your body will be consistently pumping insulin... creating a primarily anabolic environment within your body. this is great for bulking, but if you're trying to lean out, not so much. also, your body can only store so much glycogen before the insulin starts shuttling glucose into fat cells, so make sure your workouts are intense, and match carb intake to your work capacity each day. fats and protein should stay consistent.

one last thing. John Berardi is real big on nutrient timing... personally, i think the guy's a genius. if ur looking for a generally fit looking body, keep carb intake to only fruits and veggies until right after your workout, then down some sugar (dextrose ideally, but any really simple, fast digesting carb will work) and fast digesting whey isolate (2:1 ratio) and then down a protein and starch (pasta, oats, rice, bread etc.) meal within two hours of your workout. hope this helped...

 

[marcu_s]

your question may require a book to answer lol. it may be easier to help you if you would post your fitness goals. weight loss, bodybuilding...

their are simple carbs and complex carbs. white rice. white potatoes, white pasta are all simple brown rice, sweet potatoes, whole grain, oats are all complex. they are both equaly valuable. imo salads are only good for vitamins, minerals and fiber. these nutrients are also valuable if eaten right.

what are you dieting for?

so the carbs in my sallad dont count....i could eat how much i want whitout worrying?

and the popcorn, should i count them as simple carbs?

i just saw that a training magazine had popcorn in an offseason diet they had written down....but that was for bulking thou, thats why im wondering.

nowbody can answer this?

 

[baw333]

the difference is mainly in how quickly your body will convert the carbohydrate molecules to glucose, i.e. the stuff that gets stored in muscles as fuel for work (lifting). Basically, and although this is a bit of a dated explanation, 'simple' carbs get converted into glucose at a much higher rate than 'complex' carbs, and are thus more valuable either during, or right after a workout. it basically comes down to the number of chemical bonds linking the molecules... the more unrefined the carbohydrate is, the more the body needs to work in order to digest it. Also, the quicker the carbs are converted into glucose, along with the amount of carbs ingested, the stronger the insulin spike will be. This basically means that if youre consistently downing simple carbs (candy, soda, white rice, rice cakes, cereal, etc.) your body will be consistently pumping insulin... creating a primarily anabolic environment within your body. this is great for bulking, but if you're trying to lean out, not so much. also, your body can only store so much glycogen before the insulin starts shuttling glucose into fat cells, so make sure your workouts are intense, and match carb intake to your work capacity each day. fats and protein should stay consistent.

one last thing. John Berardi is real big on nutrient timing... personally, i think the guy's a genius. if ur looking for a generally fit looking body, keep carb intake to only fruits and veggies until right after your workout, then down some sugar (dextrose ideally, but any really simple, fast digesting carb will work) and fast digesting whey isolate (2:1 ratio) and then down a protein and starch (pasta, oats, rice, bread etc.) meal within two hours of your workout. hope this helped...

good info, thanks alot. i have a question though, how do i match my carb intake to my work capacity each day?