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Week 2 of Dermacrine <results>

devunn said:
This may have been mentioned already but I must have missed it.. out of curiousity how long can I store a bottle of dermacrine before it goes bad?
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if stored correctly for ever......I would think
 
Just ordered my first bottle. Going to use it in a few weeks for PCT in conjunction with HCG and clomid.

PP or needto....how would one use Derma with HCG and clomid?
 
boston789 said:
Just ordered my first bottle. Going to use it in a few weeks for PCT in conjunction with HCG and clomid.

PP or needto....how would one use Derma with HCG and clomid?
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well hcg and clomid ar not needed with derma....I like to say use the hcg during
the last few weeks of your cycle then use the derma a week or two after you last shot of aas depending on the type.you deff dont need the clomid but if you want to run it hell do it up......

if you really want to run all 3 for pct then I will get pp in here to help with putting that together.....
 
boston789 said:
Yeah...

PP you wanna help me out man? I'm sure alot of other people are wondering the same thing...
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you could always just run your pct like you always do and add 4 weeks of derma at 4-5 pumps a day.
 
needtogetas said:
Testosterone is generally considered the ultimate hormone for supporting a lean muscular body, healthy libido, and general cognition. However, testosterone has two primary pitfalls, -- Estrogen and DHT. Unfortunately, high estrogen levels can suppress a mans testosterone, cause breast tissue growth, and increase fat storage. High DHT can aggravate the prostate causing urination problems, and increase the chance of hair loss.

Dermacrine is a topically applied dietary supplement that dramatically increases testosterone, while maintaining a safe balance of estrogen and DHT. Our cutting edge topical formula is the ultimate supplement for any man who wishes to increase lean muscle, burn fat, and optimize his sexual performance. Dermacrine is also an excellent tool for any steroid user who has suppressed his hormonal production and wishes to regain his testosterone levels without further compromising cholesterol levels, prostate or liver health.

As a benefit to all men, Dermacrine has the unique ability to "regenerate" the bodies own hormonal production. Rather than having a suppressive effect on the endocrine system (like most testosterone boosters), Dermacrine rejuvenates enzymatic pathways for continued benefits that are realized even after cessation of use.
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although it may be tedious for you, you should consider always putting this kind of stuff in quotes, and always indicating where it's coming from (i.e. the website, the pamphlets in the package, etc.).
 
jackangel said:
although it may be tedious for you, you should consider always putting this kind of stuff in quotes, and always indicating where it's coming from (i.e. the website, the pamphlets in the package, etc.).
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meh
 
needtogetas said:
it can be suppressive if used for a long time.but if used right it is not.we are coming out with a new derma that you can use for life if you wanted to and it will not be suppressive ever.every one that has used derma loved it so much they did not want to come off so because of this we were forced to come up with one that could be used long term.the derma now is only for pct or getting back your test or a test booster.it is not suppressive and in fact help the body make its own test for a long time after use but you have to cycle it on and off and you cant take it more then 4 weeks....it really is the best thing out there for pct or a test booster and now with the new derma coming out you can take it for as long as you like.
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Does that mean I can cycle the NEW and OLD formula to keep my body guessing?
 
BigRupe said:
Does that mean I can cycle the NEW and OLD formula to keep my body guessing?
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Yep... in fact you may like the new formula so much that you will want to stay on for good.

I sometimes notice mild anxiety from being on the original derma due to the high levels of DHEA. The new formula wont have this issue, and therefore will be my personal choice, but everybody is different and some users actually get an enjoyable “high” off of the DHEA.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
I guess that’s your cycle in your sig? Where are you in the cycle? Did you use hCG during the cycle?

-Pp
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Yes it is my current cycle. I did not use HCG during the cycle and I have about 2 1/2 - 3 weeks left.
 
jackangel said:
although it may be tedious for you, you should consider always putting this kind of stuff in quotes, and always indicating where it's coming from (i.e. the website, the pamphlets in the package, etc.).
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Why? Don't you believe him? Who cares what you think? Nobody, that's who.
 
boston789 said:
Yes it is my current cycle. I did not use HCG during the cycle and I have about 2 1/2 - 3 weeks left.
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In that case, get on the HCG ASAP. Since you’ve been on so long your nuts are going to not be as sensitive to the hCG. Start with 500iu and ramp up to 1500iu over the next two weeks, shooting EOD. You don’t want to go too high on the hCG as it will damage your nuts, literally. (17,20 desmolase) Plus it will create a lot more estrogen than you need.

Again bro, get on the hCG now, so your balls can resensitize by the time your AAS levels drop.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
In that case, get on the HCG ASAP. Since you’ve been on so long your nuts are going to not be as sensitive to the hCG. Start with 500iu and ramp up to 1500iu over the next two weeks, shooting EOD. You don’t want to go too high on the hCG as it will damage your nuts, literally. (17,20 desmolase) Plus it will create a lot more estrogen than you need.

Again bro, get on the hCG now, so your balls can resensitize by the time your AAS levels drop.

-Pp
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But I'm running long esters...even after my last shot my blood levels are still going to be high...

Do i still start the HCG now and then the derma and clomid after my last shot?
 
boston789 said:
But I'm running long esters...even after my last shot my blood levels are still going to be high...

Do i still start the HCG now and then the derma and clomid after my last shot?
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run the hcg one week out after to.then start the dema and clomid a week after that.... :)
 
boston789 said:
But I'm running long esters...even after my last shot my blood levels are still going to be high...

Do i still start the HCG now and then the derma and clomid after my last shot?
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Its doesnt matter what esters your running, you should be doing the hCG now, and should have dont it earlier in the cycle.

Start derma and clo a week after your last shot.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Its doesnt matter what esters your running, you should be doing the hCG now, and should have dont it earlier in the cycle.

Start derma and clo a week after your last shot.

-Pp
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18 weeks is pretty long.
 
boston789 said:
Yeah it is....I can recover pretty good. OK sounds good...will do.
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How do you usually respond to the Clomid? I have heard mixed things on emotional/psychological effects. I personally turn into a total woman while on it, but I have heard some guys say they are fine on it. Either way the Derma should help elevate your mood.

I know a buddy of mine who just about married his GF while on clomid. Cracks me up watchin guys on it, takes em from juiced up freaks to little boys who just wanna suckle tit and marry the first girl they find.
 
D_Mac said:
How do you usually respond to the Clomid? I have heard mixed things on emotional/psychological effects. I personally turn into a total woman while on it, but I have heard some guys say they are fine on it. Either way the Derma should help elevate your mood.

I know a buddy of mine who just about married his GF while on clomid. Cracks me up watchin guys on it, takes em from juiced up freaks to little boys who just wanna suckle tit and marry the first girl they find.
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That is a funny story! :p

I am fine on clomid...I get oily skin and night sweats sometimes though.
 
boston789 said:
That is a funny story! :p

I am fine on clomid...I get oily skin and night sweats sometimes though.
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Your lucky man, if it works it works. 18 week cycle is a long time, how long do you plan to be off? Are you going to take some time off and try to get yourself all back to natural before your next cycle or are you doing more of a bridge pct?
 
D_Mac said:
Your lucky man, if it works it works. 18 week cycle is a long time, how long do you plan to be off? Are you going to take some time off and try to get yourself all back to natural before your next cycle or are you doing more of a bridge pct?
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I'll be all natty until like july/august and then hit a quick 8 weeker up. I was on test/eq/var over this past summer for 16 weeks and I recovered pretty damn well.
 
boston789 said:
I'll be all natty until like july/august and then hit a quick 8 weeker up. I was on test/eq/var over this past summer for 16 weeks and I recovered pretty damn well.
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good deal, nice long recovery time. How were your gains over the 16 weeks?
 
D_Mac said:
good deal, nice long recovery time. How were your gains over the 16 weeks?
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My gains were real nice. Didnt gain ALOT of mass but got some real nice cuts, lost fat, seemed like I gain some solid muscle. More my type of cycle anyways. I did a bulker once and would not do it again.
 
needto or pp can you send derma to australia legaly? and your saying i dont have to use clomid at all?
 
xrsist said:
needto or pp can you send derma to australia legaly? and your saying i dont have to use clomid at all?
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I don't think Australia allows DHEA,...

The new formula they're coming out with will ship to Australia.
 
D_Mac said:
I don't think Australia allows DHEA,...

The new formula they're coming out with will ship to Australia.
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can you tell me why the new product will be able to be sent to australia bro? is it not as good?
 
xrsist said:
can you tell me why the new product will be able to be sent to australia bro? is it not as good?
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we are discusing it now in this thread but will prop have a thread of its own on it soon.its not better or worse it just used differently depending on what you want to use them for....first thing I would ask it what do you want to use the derma for.......if pct then the new derma is just as good or better depending.and you can use it longer.
 
needtogetas said:
we are discusing it now in this thread but will prop have a thread of its own on it soon.its not better or worse it just used differently depending on what you want to use them for....first thing I would ask it what do you want to use the derma for.......if pct then the new derma is just as good or better depending.and you can use it longer.
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yer i would wanna use it for PCT. let me know how you go finding out about it all. thanks bro
 
xrsist said:
yer i would wanna use it for PCT. let me know how you go finding out about it all. thanks bro
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ya we are going to be talking about it a lot in the next few days...you will be able to get it here when it comes out.http://www.primordialperformance.com/

if using it for pct then yes it is dame good for that and you can use it as long as you like right up till you next cycle.we have deferent items coming out later for on cycle use as well to.... :)
 
xrsist said:
can you tell me why the new product will be able to be sent to australia bro? is it not as good?
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The product will be able to be shipped anywhere, because it will not contain the DHEA and preg. Plus it wont make you test positive on UA's if your competing in an organization where DHEA is tested for.

Cut n’ paste from another thread I answered this question on -

“While the original dermacrine works well for PCT, the effect of DHEA on endogenous testosterone production can be biphasic in that it may eventually have a suppressive effect on LH & FSH release by its eventual peripheral conversion to other androgens. (one of the reasons we recommend only 4 weeks use)

We’ve addressed the potential issue in the new version of “Dermacrine Sustain” by removing the DHEA/preg and increasing the dosage of the phyto-based AI’s. This will improve the products ability to increase LH & FSH even more, and serve more as a long-term solution.”

Basically the new derma will be more targeted for getting your HTPA jumpstarted and working again. The phyto-AI blend has some really cool properties, so we wanted to release a formula that contained a higher concentration of these ingredients. So no, we don’t feel the new formula is compromised by any means, and in fact is improved upon.

-Pp
 
needtogetas said:
who's test results you waiting for bro????
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AAP, the guy who started the thread! Said he would scan the results and post them...still waiting to see the actual measurable results.
 
nab12 said:
AAP, the guy who started the thread! Said he would scan the results and post them...still waiting to see the actual measurable results.
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Did you see my other thread? I just got my first saliva test back the other day. I will scan it in over the weekend when I go to my partners. I don't have a scanner here. But I promise you the info on the other thread that I posted is 100% accurate. I will get it up.

I already took the second test at the two week mark, and waiting to get it back any day now. But it took a long time for the first one to come back.
 
AAP said:
Did you see my other thread? I just got my first saliva test back the other day. I will scan it in over the weekend when I go to my partners. I don't have a scanner here. But I promise you the info on the other thread that I posted is 100% accurate. I will get it up.

I already took the second test at the two week mark, and waiting to get it back any day now. But it took a long time for the first one to come back.
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there isnt another thread...unless I am over looking it???
 
AAP said:
Did you see my other thread? I just got my first saliva test back the other day. I will scan it in over the weekend when I go to my partners. I don't have a scanner here. But I promise you the info on the other thread that I posted is 100% accurate. I will get it up.

I already took the second test at the two week mark, and waiting to get it back any day now. But it took a long time for the first one to come back.
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Hey AAP, I saw that thread.

As far as your personal results (gym, performance, libido) what would you compare it to and describe the way you felt (was it progressively better, etc)...


Thanks bro :) ,


g2f
 
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