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Week 2 of Dermacrine <results>

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Bros and hos listen up.

Tomorrow (Tuesday) will make the end of my second week (14 days for you meatheads) that I have been using Dermacrine.

My last cycle was in July of last year : 1 gram test weekly, 800mg EQ weekly, 3 ius Serostim daily.

When I came off, I did not do any PCT (never have). I just stopped.

I took the saliva test results the day before starting (will scan in a copy when they come back for the BEFORE info) and tomorrow will be taking and sending in the second test (and scanning results to post when they come back for the AFTER info). that way you guys know I am not shitting you around when I tell you THIS STUFF WORKS!!

My libido has increased a LOT! In the gym I have more mental focus and clarity and find myself thinking about my next set rather than spending the time between sets watching the tv over the cardio room.

The best part is actually putting it on in the mornings... remember the first time you tried Aqua Velva after shave? This has that same "shock" to it when you put it on the first couple of times. You get used to it and the smell is not noticeable at all.

What has been the experience from the other users? Post up your results here. Along with your before/after stats (how long off cycle, etc...)
 
I will probably throw in an order for PCT.. I really tend to lose interest when I am off. Think it will help??
 
floridalife said:
more gym focus is not a reason to take the stuff, that's all u have experienced?
are you blind or just trying to be a dick

My libido has increased a LOT.
that way you guys know I am not shitting you around when I tell you THIS STUFF WORKS!!
My libido has increased a LOT!
In the gym I have more mental focus and clarity and find myself thinking about my next set rather than spending the time between sets watching the tv over the cardio room.


and I am shore he has got more then just that as it sound like he is pretty damr happy with it.........
 
AAP said:
Bros and hos listen up.

Tomorrow (Tuesday) will make the end of my second week (14 days for you meatheads) that I have been using Dermacrine.

My last cycle was in July of last year : 1 gram test weekly, 800mg EQ weekly, 3 ius Serostim daily.

When I came off, I did not do any PCT (never have). I just stopped.

I took the saliva test results the day before starting (will scan in a copy when they come back for the BEFORE info) and tomorrow will be taking and sending in the second test (and scanning results to post when they come back for the AFTER info). that way you guys know I am not shitting you around when I tell you THIS STUFF WORKS!!

My libido has increased a LOT! In the gym I have more mental focus and clarity and find myself thinking about my next set rather than spending the time between sets watching the tv over the cardio room.

The best part is actually putting it on in the mornings... remember the first time you tried Aqua Velva after shave? This has that same "shock" to it when you put it on the first couple of times. You get used to it and the smell is not noticeable at all.

What has been the experience from the other users? Post up your results here. Along with your before/after stats (how long off cycle, etc...)

Sounds great, but if my libido increases any more, I'll be humping trees in the yard. Intersting stuff. Keep us informed.
 
I used it for 3 weeks following 1 week of HCG and Clomid. I must admit that strength was unreal, pumps were great, and I did not reach an overtrained state even while doing 2 a days.

I will have test results in the near future....but from past experiences with all other PCT drugs.....I have felt the best while using dermacrine......really
 
Vascular Freak said:
I used it for 3 weeks following 1 week of HCG and Clomid. I must admit that strength was unreal, pumps were great, and I did not reach an overtrained state even while doing 2 a days.

I will have test results in the near future....but from past experiences with all other PCT drugs.....I have felt the best while using dermacrine......really
see what I mean drma is pct all the way.
 
needtogetas said:
are you blind or just trying to be a dick

My libido has increased a LOT.
that way you guys know I am not shitting you around when I tell you THIS STUFF WORKS!!
My libido has increased a LOT!
In the gym I have more mental focus and clarity and find myself thinking about my next set rather than spending the time between sets watching the tv over the cardio room.


and I am shore he has got more then just that as it sound like he is pretty damr happy with it.........

HEY DOUCHE BAG, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAID

NOTHING ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE BEING IMPROVED FOCUS, WANTING THE NEXT SET YIPEE LIBIDO CAN MEAN ANYTHING

WATCH YOURSELF TALKING TO ME FOCKER
 
Vascular Freak said:
I used it for 3 weeks following 1 week of HCG and Clomid. I must admit that strength was unreal, pumps were great, and I did not reach an overtrained state even while doing 2 a days.

I will have test results in the near future....but from past experiences with all other PCT drugs.....I have felt the best while using dermacrine......really

Vasc, u feel you actually really and truly saw strength gains? Equivlant to.. what for example? Thanks
 
floridalife said:
HEY DOUCHE BAG, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAID

NOTHING ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE BEING IMPROVED FOCUS, WANTING THE NEXT SET YIPEE LIBIDO CAN MEAN ANYTHING

WATCH YOURSELF TALKING TO ME FOCKER
WATCH YOURSELF TALKING TO ME FOCKER.lol lets take this to a new thread please.
 
needtogetas said:
WATCH YOURSELF TALKING TO ME FOCKER.lol lets take this to a new thread please.
ya ok thats what I thought dont wats all are time with your kid shit bro.grow up.lets not kill a good thread because your a fag.
 
floridalife said:
Vasc, u feel you actually really and truly saw strength gains? Equivlant to.. what for example? Thanks


Kind of hard to compare but after dropping the gear (test e, eq, and winstrol) I continued to make strength gains on major lifts like deads, squats, bench press etc. This past summer I ran a similar cycle and lost a good amount of strength/muscle endurance post cycle.

With the derma I just felt great....almost like if you ran a light var cycle for a few weeks by itself or something. The biggest thing with me is normally I overdo the AI's and serms etc which may cause strength loss. The derma keeps estro to andro ratios balanced well. I was a little more bloated that when using the gear with AI's and Proviron etc but overall it was great.....its just post cycle bros....not life or death so give it a try....and no I am not associated with Pp at all.....but just appreciate them letting me "sample test" it. I will buy some next PCT for sure.
 
floridalife said:
So strength was the most evident effect? Anything like winny strength?

Haha...well I just started prop and winny....its not quite that good close. I also was using 1500mg tribulus pre workout only which really works well for me. Makes me aggressive as hell
 
I am on week three of Dermacrine and I have seen a def. libio increase along with slight strenght increases and some good endurance increases. My skin is a little tighter also. This stuff is the real deal. I am not in PCT. I am just using this as a test booster. It also improves my mood too esp. after application. This product is good for PCT and just for anyone looking for an increase in test.
 
skullcrushin22 said:
I am on week three of Dermacrine and I have seen a def. libio increase along with slight strenght increases and some good endurance increases. My skin is a little tighter also. This stuff is the real deal. I am not in PCT. I am just using this as a test booster. It also improves my mood too esp. after application. This product is good for PCT and just for anyone looking for an increase in test.

Good results bro! ;)
 
genman said:
Sounds great, but if my libido increases any more, I'll be humping trees in the yard. Intersting stuff. Keep us informed.


Are we not supposed to hump the trees in the yard? SHIT!!! No one told me!!
 
I don't see why some people are so hell-bent on strength increases, or increase in anything else for that matter (libido, endurance, etc) during PCT... increase in comparison to what? Your cycle? If that's what you're looking for from PCT, then it wouldn't be PCT, it'd still be your cycle! IMO, if a product can help MAINTAIN a good portion of strength, libido, and endurance that you had from the recent cycle, as opposed to losing it all or just plain crashing, then that's good enough for me!

If I lose some strength during PCT, that's no big deal... I EXPECT that to happen for crying out loud, or as I said, I'd still be ON... if I can maintain libido, focus, endurance and a general sense of well-being, that's damn well good enough for me.

I want this dermacrine stuff to work...to be the real deal... because I've tried so much other crap in the past that just didn't work. So I'll just keep watching on the side-lines until I make up my mind.
 
njmuscleguy said:
I don't see why some people are so hell-bent on strength increases, or increase in anything else for that matter (libido, endurance, etc) during PCT... increase in comparison to what? Your cycle? If that's what you're looking for from PCT, then it wouldn't be PCT, it'd still be your cycle! IMO, if a product can help MAINTAIN a good portion of strength, libido, and endurance that you had from the recent cycle, as opposed to losing it all or just plain crashing, then that's good enough for me!

If I lose some strength during PCT, that's no big deal... I EXPECT that to happen for crying out loud, or as I said, I'd still be ON... if I can maintain libido, focus, endurance and a general sense of well-being, that's damn well good enough for me.

I want this dermacrine stuff to work...to be the real deal... because I've tried so much other crap in the past that just didn't work. So I'll just keep watching on the side-lines until I make up my mind.
will be waiting for you. :) your going to love it.
 
floridalife said:
Vasc, u feel you actually really and truly saw strength gains? Equivlant to.. what for example? Thanks

my gains kept coming after cycle, and still going up....

this product is no joke

AAP glad your ne of the testers, always respected your output

i just finished up my bottle, i used 35pumps/day untill the bottle ran out...

i sent in my second saliva test....hopefully get them results soon....

I feel great, no depression yet, no losss of libido, no mental frustration...

Plus i really like the that the europhic feeling didnt go away after week 1, and every morning workout i had was GREAT.
 
Ok I think Im going to try some. Is there a discount code for EF or is everyone paying full retail? I dont see it at the major supp shops so I guess its only offered through PP.
 
KD1 said:
Ok I think Im going to try some. Is there a discount code for EF or is everyone paying full retail? I dont see it at the major supp shops so I guess its only offered through PP.
there is a ten dolor of coupon for ef members i will have to find it though....you should have got a email at the addy you registered with at this site with the code
in it..... :)
 
needtogetas said:
there is a ten dolor of coupon for ef members i will have to find it though....you should have got a email at the addy you registered with at this site with the code
in it..... :)

I just looked through my inbox for that email addy and didnt see it. I cleaned house in there this weekend though.

If you find the coupon email it to me at [email protected] for some karma ( as if you need it lol ).
 
Vascular Freak said:
With the derma I just felt great....almost like if you ran a light var cycle for a few weeks by itself or something. The biggest thing with me is normally I overdo the AI's and serms etc which may cause strength loss. The derma keeps estro to andro ratios balanced well. I was a little more bloated that when using the gear with AI's and Proviron etc but overall it was great.....its just post cycle bros....not life or death so give it a try...

Thank you bro.

-Pp
 
KD1 said:
Any potential negative interaction with Propecia ( finisteride ) ?

There is no contradiction that I know of, but If your prone to the side effects of finestride you still will be whether you are using Dermacrine or not.

-Pp
 
AAP said:
I took the saliva test results the day before starting (will scan in a copy when they come back for the BEFORE info) and tomorrow will be taking and sending in the second test (and scanning results to post when they come back for the AFTER info). that way you guys know I am not shitting you around when I tell you THIS STUFF WORKS!!

Looking forward to seeing the AFTER saliva test results...

Thanks for sharing.
 
So Needto, are like the spokesmodel/spokesperson for this stuff, cheerleader, work for the company, etc. etc ????? Just curious
 
pentatonic said:
So Needto, are like the spokesmodel/spokesperson for this stuff, cheerleader, work for the company, etc. etc ????? Just curious
cheerleader-meh
model-naaaaa maybe aap would be good for that. :)
 
Well , I'm gonna add to some of the cheerleading. My first 2 weeks on dermacrine were highlighted with good gains. But to be honest they were hard to measure because

1. I started AIFM 2 weeks previous
2. Omegas new strength stack came out

My strength is up to the point my joints cannot keep up , so I will stick with 2 week cycles. Time to do rotator cuff work because I KILLED myself in the gym.

Anyway DHEA products have always given me acne. So I know this product is raising test due to the apearance of pimples in a guy who is 34. So I think dhea is converting into testosterone thus the breakouts as well the natural production of test is exacerbating the acne (thus the need for sesapure when doing this or I will have to stay home from work)

So I'm sold...
 
Some of us don't juice , so there is no PCT...

njmuscleguy said:
I don't see why some people are so hell-bent on strength increases, or increase in anything else for that matter (libido, endurance, etc) during PCT... increase in comparison to what? Your cycle? If that's what you're looking for from PCT, then it wouldn't be PCT, it'd still be your cycle! IMO, if a product can help MAINTAIN a good portion of strength, libido, and endurance that you had from the recent cycle, as opposed to losing it all or just plain crashing, then that's good enough for me!

If I lose some strength during PCT, that's no big deal... I EXPECT that to happen for crying out loud, or as I said, I'd still be ON... if I can maintain libido, focus, endurance and a general sense of well-being, that's damn well good enough for me.

I want this dermacrine stuff to work...to be the real deal... because I've tried so much other crap in the past that just didn't work. So I'll just keep watching on the side-lines until I make up my mind.
 
fbodyguy02 said:
Looking forward to seeing the AFTER saliva test results...

Thanks for sharing.


Yeah, I will post up when they come back from the lab. I just sent in the second one. Still haven't gotten the first one back yet.

But I don't want people thinking I am blowing smoke out of my ass.
 
pentatonic said:
So Needto, are like the spokesmodel/spokesperson for this stuff, cheerleader, work for the company, etc. etc ????? Just curious

I know right. Before anyone makes a post on Elite they need to provide full disclosure like they do on CNBC. "Before I tell you what I think about this stock let me state that I own the company". In Needtos case it should say "For every bottle of Demacrine you buy I get 5 stinkin dollars!! Yeehaw!!". So many transparent agendas on this board...

Anyway...Not looking to start anything. It sounds like a great product and I'm actually going to order it.
 
dosteov said:
In Needtos case it should say "For every bottle of Demacrine you buy I get 5 stinkin dollars!! Yeehaw!!". So many transparent agendas on this board...

Hey let a bro make money any way he can. People endorse products all the time from celebrities to athletes.

If the saliva tests come back showing that its bunk then it wont matter what people say.
 
KD1 said:
Hey let a bro make money any way he can. People endorse products all the time from celebrities to athletes.

If the saliva tests come back showing that its bunk then it wont matter what people say.

I understand completely and have no problem with it. Product sounds great and is getting excellent feedback (I just put an order in for it). Regarding a bro making money though. it is a tricky line to walk really. I mean suppose someone was promoting an anti-estrogen product that was bunk. You could jeopordize someone's health by recommending it right (if someone wanted to reduce bloat because they were prone to gyno or high blood pressure)?
 
dosteov said:
I know right. Before anyone makes a post on Elite they need to provide full disclosure like they do on CNBC. "Before I tell you what I think about this stock let me state that I own the company". In Needtos case it should say "For every bottle of Demacrine you buy I get 5 stinkin dollars!! Yeehaw!!". So many transparent agendas on this board...

Anyway...Not looking to start anything. It sounds like a great product and I'm actually going to order it.
let me make this Cristal clear."I DONT MAKE A SINGLE PENNY NO MATTER HOW MANY BOTTLES OF DERMA GETS SOLD" OK GOT IT.THANKS.
 
AAP said:
I am blowing smoke out of my ass.


too easy.

AAP, what kind of phase are you in? cutting, bulking, neither? have you posted up recent pics? preferably super-gay ones (even though i know you ain't).

i got my dermacrine yesterday and slapped some on this morning. shaved the entire area and showered last night as well. i was curious about how it would spread and absorb (i.e. would it be sticky, etc.). it was fine, no problems. pleasant smell.
 
soxfan said:
My interest is piqued. Does this stuff ship to Canada?????

No we cant. But we will have a new version of Dermacrine available that we will be able to ship to canada. (ETA - 2-3 weeks)

-Pp

BTW, needto isnt makin any money, but he enjoys being a candidate for testing future products... and maybe a couple karma hits :)
 
Primordial Performance said:
No we cant. But we will have a new version of Dermacrine available that we will be able to ship to canada. (ETA - 2-3 weeks)

-Pp

BTW, needto isnt makin any money, but he enjoys being a candidate for testing future products... and maybe a couple karma hits :)
and I dont mind telling people about a good thing....I am here on this site all the time learning and having fun all the time any way :)
 
njmuscleguy said:
I don't see why some people are so hell-bent on strength increases, or increase in anything else for that matter (libido, endurance, etc) during PCT... increase in comparison to what? Your cycle? If that's what you're looking for from PCT, then it wouldn't be PCT, it'd still be your cycle! IMO, if a product can help MAINTAIN a good portion of strength, libido, and endurance that you had from the recent cycle, as opposed to losing it all or just plain crashing, then that's good enough for me!

If I lose some strength during PCT, that's no big deal... I EXPECT that to happen for crying out loud, or as I said, I'd still be ON... if I can maintain libido, focus, endurance and a general sense of well-being, that's damn well good enough for me.

I want this dermacrine stuff to work...to be the real deal... because I've tried so much other crap in the past that just didn't work. So I'll just keep watching on the side-lines until I make up my mind.


The stuff in the past that didn't work, was it pushed on this board? :evil:

I'll do the same as you, and if this is still a big hit in a month I'll give it a try. If it fades out and :) something else is being pushed next month I won't even bother.
 
jackangel said:
too easy.

AAP, what kind of phase are you in? cutting, bulking, neither? have you posted up recent pics? preferably super-gay ones (even though i know you ain't).

i got my dermacrine yesterday and slapped some on this morning. shaved the entire area and showered last night as well. i was curious about how it would spread and absorb (i.e. would it be sticky, etc.). it was fine, no problems. pleasant smell.

So Jack-As.... I mean Jack-Angel :chomp: . How is the stuff treatin you now? Let us know how you feel in the gym after a few days.
 
D_Mac said:
So Jack-As.... I mean Jack-Angel :chomp: . How is the stuff treatin you now? Let us know how you feel in the gym after a few days.

i will. especially if it's a positive thing. if i feel nothing...i suppose that's exactly the kind of thing i should mention as well, even though i won't want to.

as of right now, there's nothing i can point to. although i often feel ehhhh throughout the day and don't now, that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

tonight i'll do back, and hope for a good workout. GMs and rows, maybe some pink dumbbell work.
 
mm107 said:
my gains kept coming after cycle, and still going up....

this product is no joke

AAP glad your ne of the testers, always respected your output

i just finished up my bottle, i used 35pumps/day untill the bottle ran out...

i sent in my second saliva test....hopefully get them results soon....

I feel great, no depression yet, no losss of libido, no mental frustration...

Plus i really like the that the europhic feeling didnt go away after week 1, and every morning workout i had was GREAT.


It takes 35 pumps a day to work? Wtf man...
 
odoyal rulez said:
It takes 35 pumps a day to work? Wtf man...

35 sprays is what he meant, not much comes out each spray, it is 4-5 pumps if you us ethe pump. The bottle is 7 ounces and lasts 26-27 days so 7/26 = .27 ounces per day, not that much, enough to cover shoulders and some of the torso
 
floridalife said:
more gym focus is not a reason to take the stuff, that's all u have experienced?


Completely different topic, but that's an incredible picture of Arnold. It still inspires me after all these years!
 
I'm just as curious to hear how people feel weeks, months, etc. after finishing a Dermacrine "cycle" ... are strength and energy still up? mood still good? That would tell me that the product actually gets the body "working" again as opposed to a temporary "fix"
 
i'm curious about something. are there any existing preconditions which would make the use of this product less effective? specifically, body chemistry which is less-than-optimal for producing test? more specifically, low cholesterol? i don't know that this would be significant enough a limiting factor, but if cholesterol is used to synthesize test...
 
jackangel said:
i'm curious about something. are there any existing preconditions which would make the use of this product less effective? specifically, body chemistry which is less-than-optimal for producing test? more specifically, low cholesterol? i don't know that this would be significant enough a limiting factor, but if cholesterol is used to synthesize test...

Your test will go up regardless of your cholesterol levels. Interesting question, but Im not aware of a correlation between high cholesterol and high test, or visa versa.

-Pp
 
i have a few questions about this...

1) i read the site and this thread, and didnt see anything mentioned about the legality of it...is it a legal product?

2) it said on the site that it can be transfered to others through bedsheets and clothes...so does this mean if your having physical contact with others (sports, sex, whatever) you cant touch them with your application site? or once its dry your good to go. and it doesnt melt off/get fucked up with sweat?

3) alot of younger guys dont juice because of natural test levels are already high/dont wanna fuck with their growth/dont wanna mess with off cycle hormone levels. on their site it says not recommended for anyone under 18, so as a 19 year old, would it have the same sides as other test increasing products, like fused growth plates, etc...

...and im assuming you dont need to do pct or anything for it and worry about side effects like gyno since it doesnt cause increases in estrogen...and u guys are using it as part of your pct?

thanks
 
SublimeZM said:
i have a few questions about this...

1) i read the site and this thread, and didnt see anything mentioned about the legality of it...is it a legal product?

2) it said on the site that it can be transfered to others through bedsheets and clothes...so does this mean if your having physical contact with others (sports, sex, whatever) you cant touch them with your application site? or once its dry your good to go. and it doesnt melt off/get fucked up with sweat?

3) alot of younger guys dont juice because of natural test levels are already high/dont wanna fuck with their growth/dont wanna mess with off cycle hormone levels. on their site it says not recommended for anyone under 18, so as a 19 year old, would it have the same sides as other test increasing products, like fused growth plates, etc...

...and im assuming you dont need to do pct or anything for it and worry about side effects like gyno since it doesnt cause increases in estrogen...and u guys are using it as part of your pct?

thanks

Yes, the product is legal is the USA.

It only poses a problem when transferred to very young children. Minimal transfer to others during sex or sport will not pose a problem for a grown adult. (male or female)

Honestly, you wont notice as much from dermacrine unless you on the low/normal range of test. If you havnt touched any steroids and are a healthy guy, your hormones are probably still very high. On the contrary, many 19 yr olds may actually have low test from drinking, stress, excess bodyfat, high estrogen, ect. In this case, they would benefit from dermacrine.

Some of our Dermacrine users had a slight increase in estrogen accompanied by massive increase in testosterone and other androgens. If your worried about premature closure of your epiphyseal plates, its best to avoid hormonal products all together.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Yes, the product is legal is the USA.

It only poses a problem when transferred to very young children. Minimal transfer to others during sex or sport will not pose a problem for a grown adult. (male or female)

Honestly, you wont notice as much from dermacrine unless you on the low/normal range of test. If you havnt touched any steroids and are a healthy guy, your hormones are probably still very high. On the contrary, many 19 yr olds may actually have low test from drinking, stress, excess bodyfat, high estrogen, ect. In this case, they would benefit from dermacrine.

Some of our Dermacrine users had a slight increase in estrogen accompanied by massive increase in testosterone and other androgens. If your worried about premature closure of your epiphyseal plates, its best to avoid hormonal products all together.

-Pp
yeah i guess im gunna hold off on it then... :(
 
After a year of aggressive HRT I decided to stop and give nature a chance. 2 months into proper PCT I was depressed and my workouts sucked. I had no sex drive and thought I would never wake up with a hard on again. After 5 days of using dermacrine I had a positive mental attitude, my workouts significantly improved in poundages and volume, and I finally have morning wood again. Dermacrine is a MUST for PCT.

The girlfriend asked me, "Whats going on, your on something." She likes it so much that she is buying the next bottle. How's that for a placebo effect?

Thank you Dermacrine
 
vitamix said:
After a year of aggressive HRT I decided to stop and give nature a chance. 2 months into proper PCT I was depressed and my workouts sucked. I had no sex drive and thought I would never wake up with a hard on again. After 5 days of using dermacrine I had a positive mental attitude, my workouts significantly improved in poundages and volume, and I finally have morning wood again. Dermacrine is a MUST for PCT.

The girlfriend asked me, "Whats going on, your on something." She likes it so much that she is buying the next bottle. How's that for a placebo effect?

Thank you Dermacrine

Lol Man thats great to hear, you sound like a Dermacrine commercial. Keep your eyes on the forum man, word on the street is there are more products coming from these guys in the next month or 2
 
wait....is this stuff site specific?? like if you were doing chest that day....you gotta rub it on your chest?? I thought it was just a couple spots on your body that you could rotate from day to day, like AIFM...........you don't have to bathe yourself in this stuff do you??
 
redsamurai said:
wait....is this stuff site specific?? like if you were doing chest that day....you gotta rub it on your chest?? I thought it was just a couple spots on your body that you could rotate from day to day, like AIFM...........you don't have to bathe yourself in this stuff do you??
no its not site specific just rub were it says to and it works all over.
 
needtogetas said:
but on a side not there is a lot of non steroid users on the boards that are using derma right now and loving it.... :)
word, i was considering it after reading all this about it, but if it fux with hormones and growth plates then i pretty much need to avoid it for the same reason im avoiding roids...im too young
 
Well I should be finishing up here shortly with the Dermacrine so I can let you guys know how the after effects are. Other than that everything is still going smoothly and I still have been seeing good things from Dermacrine and not one negative.
 
SublimeZM said:
word, i was considering it after reading all this about it, but if it fux with hormones and growth plates then i pretty much need to avoid it for the same reason im avoiding roids...im too young
young and lucky bro.your still running on all 12 cylinders right now :)
 
jackangel said:
too easy.

AAP, what kind of phase are you in? cutting, bulking, neither? have you posted up recent pics? preferably super-gay ones (even though i know you ain't).

i got my dermacrine yesterday and slapped some on this morning. shaved the entire area and showered last night as well. i was curious about how it would spread and absorb (i.e. would it be sticky, etc.). it was fine, no problems. pleasant smell.


I really don't have phases, unless you consider IMPROVING it. I don't bulk or cut. I grow and drop fat or increase it depending on my diet (or lack of).
 
skullcrushin22 said:
Well I should be finishing up here shortly with the Dermacrine so I can let you guys know how the after effects are. Other than that everything is still going smoothly and I still have been seeing good things from Dermacrine and not one negative.
yup next thing is to see how we all feel when we come off.I have bin off for a week now and I still feel great.
 
jackangel said:
i'm curious about something. are there any existing preconditions which would make the use of this product less effective? specifically, body chemistry which is less-than-optimal for producing test? more specifically, low cholesterol? i don't know that this would be significant enough a limiting factor, but if cholesterol is used to synthesize test...

There are some people who are genetically a step up from a mahogany table or a cynder block. No drug will help their physique except for cyanide. Give it a shot and keep us abreast of your progress.
 
35 sprays a day is still insane...cant the bottles be made to accomodate a larger pump? I mean think..sitting there and sptraying yourself 35 times lol...

also, this product sounds neato..still waiting to see lab results tho..
 
odoyal rulez said:
35 sprays a day is still insane...cant the bottles be made to accomodate a larger pump? I mean think..sitting there and sptraying yourself 35 times lol...

also, this product sounds neato..still waiting to see lab results tho..
bro it comes with a "pump that only takes 4-5 pumps" AND A "spray that is 30-40 spray" you can choose witch one you want to use...I like the spray as it gives me a more even amount over a larger aria but thats just me.........


so yes there is a pump that comes with it to and you only have to use 4-5 pumps....that sound better to you bro. :)
 
I've been using the pump, 5 every morn after shower, it's very quick and easy to put on, dries very well without being sticky or smelling.
 
SublimeZM said:
word, i was considering it after reading all this about it, but if it fux with hormones and growth plates then i pretty much need to avoid it for the same reason im avoiding roids...im too young

Stop being scared. Your not to young. Just do some gh with your cycle. It may actually may make you taller. Rumors are that Yao Ming did it as do other foreign shortys who want to be taller.
 
galaxy said:
Stop being scared. Your not to young. Just do some gh with your cycle. It may actually may make you taller. Rumors are that Yao Ming did it as do other foreign shortys who want to be taller.
dont u have to do it at a younger age though, like mid teens?
 
galaxy said:
Dennis Rodman grew like 5inches in college. Hes another rumored one too have done it.
around waht age?

are there ways to control Gh and growth, or do you just grow an undetermined amount like gambling
 
SublimeZM said:
for ever or just while on
Testosterone is generally considered the ultimate hormone for supporting a lean muscular body, healthy libido, and general cognition. However, testosterone has two primary pitfalls, -- Estrogen and DHT. Unfortunately, high estrogen levels can suppress a mans testosterone, cause breast tissue growth, and increase fat storage. High DHT can aggravate the prostate causing urination problems, and increase the chance of hair loss.

Dermacrine is a topically applied dietary supplement that dramatically increases testosterone, while maintaining a safe balance of estrogen and DHT. Our cutting edge topical formula is the ultimate supplement for any man who wishes to increase lean muscle, burn fat, and optimize his sexual performance. Dermacrine is also an excellent tool for any steroid user who has suppressed his hormonal production and wishes to regain his testosterone levels without further compromising cholesterol levels, prostate or liver health.

As a benefit to all men, Dermacrine has the unique ability to "regenerate" the bodies own hormonal production. Rather than having a suppressive effect on the endocrine system (like most testosterone boosters), Dermacrine rejuvenates enzymatic pathways for continued benefits that are realized even after cessation of use.
 
It does sound like a great product. The only thing is what happends when you come off? Do your levels become ascue again?
 
boston789 said:
It does sound like a great product. The only thing is what happends when you come off? Do your levels become ascue again?
As a benefit to all men, Dermacrine has the unique ability to "regenerate" the bodies own hormonal production. Rather than having a suppressive effect on the endocrine system (like most testosterone boosters), Dermacrine rejuvenates enzymatic pathways for continued benefits that are realized even after cessation of use.
 
boston789 said:
It does sound like a great product. The only thing is what happends when you come off? Do your levels become ascue again?
it can be suppressive if used for a long time.but if used right it is not.we are coming out with a new derma that you can use for life if you wanted to and it will not be suppressive ever.every one that has used derma loved it so much they did not want to come off so because of this we were forced to come up with one that could be used long term.the derma now is only for pct or getting back your test or a test booster.it is not suppressive and in fact help the body make its own test for a long time after use but you have to cycle it on and off and you cant take it more then 4 weeks....it really is the best thing out there for pct or a test booster and now with the new derma coming out you can take it for as long as you like.
 
This may have been mentioned already but I must have missed it.. out of curiousity how long can I store a bottle of dermacrine before it goes bad?
 
needtogetas said:
Testosterone is generally considered the ultimate hormone for supporting a lean muscular body, healthy libido, and general cognition. However, testosterone has two primary pitfalls, -- Estrogen and DHT. Unfortunately, high estrogen levels can suppress a mans testosterone, cause breast tissue growth, and increase fat storage. High DHT can aggravate the prostate causing urination problems, and increase the chance of hair loss.

Dermacrine is a topically applied dietary supplement that dramatically increases testosterone, while maintaining a safe balance of estrogen and DHT. Our cutting edge topical formula is the ultimate supplement for any man who wishes to increase lean muscle, burn fat, and optimize his sexual performance. Dermacrine is also an excellent tool for any steroid user who has suppressed his hormonal production and wishes to regain his testosterone levels without further compromising cholesterol levels, prostate or liver health.

As a benefit to all men, Dermacrine has the unique ability to "regenerate" the bodies own hormonal production. Rather than having a suppressive effect on the endocrine system (like most testosterone boosters), Dermacrine rejuvenates enzymatic pathways for continued benefits that are realized even after cessation of use.
awsome, so is dermacrine the same has growth hormone? :rolleyes:
 
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