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Got few new pics to roxy today so they should be posted soon..feeling pretty good considering really just started dieting and dropping carbs..think I will tighten up pretty quick feel like I've already leaned up a good bit..hopefully wont go flat
The DARK HORSES log of madness for EF 90 day transformation by 25Homes!!
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Yes starting to feel btr today couldn't eat yesterday which really sucked got some food in me today and did light cardio...didn't wanna push it to much still sore from monday..should be back at full strength tm so didn't effect me too bad..waiting for your critisism zed gotta go balls out at the finish here
Man this stomach thing was worse then I thought think I got some type of flu bug..haven't been able to eat much all week and have felt very weak..haven't got amy workouts in worth talking about and its a fight to eat anything and hold it down even soup...that's mainly wat I have eaten in last few days is soup seems like only thing that doesn't totally make me sick and not puke..I really hope this clears up by weekend this is really bad timing to get the flu...keep your fingers crossed for me I gotta make mad final push and feeling like this isn't gonna cut it..
Thanks roxy zed you ok bro
Thanks roxy zed you ok bro
Hey bro sorry to be MIA.
And really sorry to hear that you are still sick man. Maybe try some yogurt for that stomach. It may get your flora and fauna back to normal.
Have you been to see a DR yet?
If not maybe you should man so you dont end up prolonging this thing...
Hope the best for you my man and good luck!
And really sorry to hear that you are still sick man. Maybe try some yogurt for that stomach. It may get your flora and fauna back to normal.
Have you been to see a DR yet?
If not maybe you should man so you dont end up prolonging this thing...
Hope the best for you my man and good luck!
Didn't see dr due to no insurance..feeling better finally today so I feel I lost a week last week so I'm gonna have to go balls out this last few weeks I'm ready though..feel like sickness cost me a some size so I'm gonna try and.just shred out to finish think I can still make this happen just upset cause I know I could have easily came in 6-8 lbs heavier..ooh well take wat life throws you and make best of it..gonna just get it done last few weeks think I can get as lean as I've ever been though so that will help...will post workout tm..thanks for all suport let me know zed what your thoughts are if you get a min so I can concentrate on that..
That true moya I know I'm lil dehydrated...guess that not a horrible thing considering I'm cutting hard now...sure some water weight will come back..weighed in today in down about 8lbs weighed 208lbs today was at 216-218lbs...feel lil flat too but think I'll be ok..thanks for thoughts though always appreciated
Yesterday did back and shoulders went lil lighter than usual cause this was first real workout since being sick and didn't wanna over due it...
Did high pulls
180 x 18
230 x 12
230 x10
180 x15
Shoulder press dbell
50x 15
60 x12
50x 15
Rows
4 sets 18/18/15/15
Lateral raises
4 sets 18/18/15/15
Stopped there felt pretty good but fatigued quick...finally was able to eat like normal so I did cheat day and loaded carbs trying to get weight back and hit lots of water as usual...
Did high pulls
180 x 18
230 x 12
230 x10
180 x15
Shoulder press dbell
50x 15
60 x12
50x 15
Rows
4 sets 18/18/15/15
Lateral raises
4 sets 18/18/15/15
Stopped there felt pretty good but fatigued quick...finally was able to eat like normal so I did cheat day and loaded carbs trying to get weight back and hit lots of water as usual...
Today chest, tris, bis
Incline dbell press
50x 22
65 x 18
70x 15
75 x12
H ammer strength incline press
180 x15
200 x12
200 x10
180 x12
Hammer wide press
180 x15
200 x12
180 x15
Preacher curls machine
60x 20
60 x18
90 x10 drop 60x12
90x 8 60x12
70x 15
Dips
22
20
18
18
Dbell curls
25 x22
30 x 18
30 x 18
25 x18
Tri pushdowns
22
20
18/15
18/15 could not read weight was worn off
Stopped there pump was insane prob best workout so far based on how I felt...
Dropped carbs back today but weighed 215 this morning so weight about back..felt so good and full today was great
Incline dbell press
50x 22
65 x 18
70x 15
75 x12
H ammer strength incline press
180 x15
200 x12
200 x10
180 x12
Hammer wide press
180 x15
200 x12
180 x15
Preacher curls machine
60x 20
60 x18
90 x10 drop 60x12
90x 8 60x12
70x 15
Dips
22
20
18
18
Dbell curls
25 x22
30 x 18
30 x 18
25 x18
Tri pushdowns
22
20
18/15
18/15 could not read weight was worn off
Stopped there pump was insane prob best workout so far based on how I felt...
Dropped carbs back today but weighed 215 this morning so weight about back..felt so good and full today was great
Have really good soreness from yesterdays workout like I said felt like one of best workouts so far think this is partially due to having some good legit test running in me now...real ly makes me wonder were I would be right now if I had been running this test from gate...did cardio today and some abs rested other wise chest, bis and tris all sore will be back at it hard tm
Yesterday legs
Leg press
270 x25
320 x20
340 x18
Hack squat
180 x20
190x 18
180 x20
Calf raises
4 sets 25 reps couldn't read stack
Strait deads
135 x20
155 x15
135 x18
Felt really good again..messed up diet last night due to dinner invite we had to attend and they were serving LA pasta so took in bunch of carbs at like 8pm surprisingly I felt decent this morning didn't feel too bloated or look soft..just added adex yesterday so think that should help tighten me up a lil since I haven't used any ai except proviron and real small amounts of dostinex like .25 every 6-8 days..
Leg press
270 x25
320 x20
340 x18
Hack squat
180 x20
190x 18
180 x20
Calf raises
4 sets 25 reps couldn't read stack
Strait deads
135 x20
155 x15
135 x18
Felt really good again..messed up diet last night due to dinner invite we had to attend and they were serving LA pasta so took in bunch of carbs at like 8pm surprisingly I felt decent this morning didn't feel too bloated or look soft..just added adex yesterday so think that should help tighten me up a lil since I haven't used any ai except proviron and real small amounts of dostinex like .25 every 6-8 days..
Ok guys over weekend did cardio and abs have been keeping carbs low and with t-3, clen, frag, and taking proviron up to 75mg ed I'm def getting leaner but went to gym this morning to do back and just simply didn't have it in mer..feel mad tired and lathergic..think I might carb load today to see if that helps...hope it does cause I feel I'm on right track with leaning out considering I mainly bulked this contest due to poor starting shape...any how I will do some cardio today and some abs once I get some carbs in me hopefully that helps!
gymjunkie09
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yeah i was in the same boat as you bro.....I wasn't lean enough to bulk for 12 weeks or big enough to cut for 12 weeks, it's tough to do both in that amount of time
gymjunkie09
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lol.....damn you jumping right back on? I'm gonna run ipa,cjc-1295, and bridge after this and take a good 3+ months off....next cycle lookin like it's gonna be test e, deca, mast prop with d-bol or beast kickstart or I might run both d-bol first four weeks and beast last 4 weeks
but i'm gonna make sure i'm under 8% when i start that one
Ok guys need some advice I'm taking frag hgh, t-3, and clen and I sweat all day can't sleep at night also taking tren 650 mg week..I'm so tired all the time and just lathergic bad...I couldn't even bring myself to walk on tread mill today just feel beat up..don't get much sleep due to excessive sweating its just crazy...I have ran tren numerous times but this is just out of control..any advice this is ruining my workouts even though I seem leaner daily
gymjunkie09
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maybe lower the tren dose??
this^
gymjunkie09
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Probably a good idea.....I'm sure its a combo of everything,not worth it if its ruining your training
excellent advice...
diet and training definately overweighs drugs and supps... i already dont like the fact that my cardio is down...
homes i know how you feel, when i get on and off the tren there are some nights where my sheets are totally soaked... at least in the middle of my cycle i dont get that... just when my horomones rise and fall...
diet and training definately overweighs drugs and supps... i already dont like the fact that my cardio is down...
homes i know how you feel, when i get on and off the tren there are some nights where my sheets are totally soaked... at least in the middle of my cycle i dont get that... just when my horomones rise and fall...
Yea trying few things...if just my sheets were soaked I'd be happy...I change my shirt every hour or two totally soaked that's during day...at night I start sleeping in reclining chair after two hours all my clothes soaked, any blankets soaked and chair seems like you dumped bucket water on it...then I move to couch for couple hours same results..then to bed soak all the pillows about every 30 min I flip over cause its soaked, then search pillows go through about 3 pillows a night I mean this is insane...when I'm sitting watching tv my head and hair totally soaked dripping off nose and chin shoulders arms chest have sweat just pouring down them like I just came out of sauna..its un describable honestly
gymjunkie09
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Damn ur girl must hate u right now lol
Only got to gym 4 times this week just drained from cutting..
Didsingle muscle group each day and could only handle.6-10 sets max before I was completely broke..
First day did chest kept reps up
Incline chest press
180 4 sets of 12-15
Flatpress 4 sets 15/12 drop sets that was all I could handle will put other 3 days shortly
Didsingle muscle group each day and could only handle.6-10 sets max before I was completely broke..
First day did chest kept reps up
Incline chest press
180 4 sets of 12-15
Flatpress 4 sets 15/12 drop sets that was all I could handle will put other 3 days shortly
Did back next this wasnt too good
High pulls
5 sets at 230 15 reps each set
3 sets rows reps were 18/18/15/15
Totally spent again
Took day rest then did shoulders
Lat raise
90 x18 all 4 sets
Shrugs
150 x 15 3 sets that was it...
Thentoday did bis and tris all super sets
Didset of preacher curls 18 reps then skull crushers 18
Did 5 sets of each
Thendid dbell curls with dips 18 reps each 4 sets each..this was my best workout had veins every where which was impressive cause I'm way depleted on carbs..pump wasn't great due to this but made me feel good about were I'm at gonna push hard last week final pics should be impressive next to first pics think ppl will say there no way which is wat I'm looking for
High pulls
5 sets at 230 15 reps each set
3 sets rows reps were 18/18/15/15
Totally spent again
Took day rest then did shoulders
Lat raise
90 x18 all 4 sets
Shrugs
150 x 15 3 sets that was it...
Thentoday did bis and tris all super sets
Didset of preacher curls 18 reps then skull crushers 18
Did 5 sets of each
Thendid dbell curls with dips 18 reps each 4 sets each..this was my best workout had veins every where which was impressive cause I'm way depleted on carbs..pump wasn't great due to this but made me feel good about were I'm at gonna push hard last week final pics should be impressive next to first pics think ppl will say there no way which is wat I'm looking for
You got that right bro hard to even get some ass cause I'm constantly soaked...if I do get some then we really got a mess looks like someone hosed down the whole bed...felt good after workout yesterday finally added few carbs to diet last night and I shocked myself how I looked..best I ever have no doubt...think I'm right on pace to finish this baby up!! Think my final pics are gonna turn some heads maybe even drop a few jaws! Lol anyway I hope when they put pics up for plats to judge that are first pics are put right next to our final pics in each pose..this only seems like the way to do it this being a transformation contest...does anyone know if this is how it will happen and wat we are to hold in final pics sure we are holding something in last ones...also anyone know when we will get results for the comp as to how we placed?
I'm feeling damn good boys hope everyone ready for some competition for this baby!!
Have dropped tren dose way down to about 400mg week so hope this helps but def feeling yoked about now I can tell you that.
Still up about 28lbs since the start I think I've dropped a good 8-10% bf too which means ive gained a load of muscle hopefully someone can help me verify this when final pics are in cause to me if those figures are right that mean I gain atleast 35-40lbs of muscle which seems unreal to me..hope someone can help me confirm about how much bf I dropped with final pics hard to caliper myself...
Good luck boys and thanks to every one for all the support major props to zed and GCA this wouldnt have been possible without their help!!
Not gonna go to crazy with workouts this week mainly cardio abs some light weights depending on how I feel gonna try and keep carbs way low until thurs and go from there..think these last pics gonna be impressive considering my first set of pics getting very excited
Ok boys been getting my tan on and really focusing on pre contest things this last week..hitting some light cardio and abs taking it fairly easy on workouts cause I'm so carb depleted..still have lots of veins even though I can tell I'm way flat from low glycogen so with proper loading and other techniques thanks to radar think I should be way vascular when it pic time just hope camera on phone good enough to see everything cause its my only option
Wasnt gonna load any carbs til tm but just felt so flat and lathergic today thought I might get few in today to start stimulating the metabolism and feel like stomach shrunk don't know I can get all food down next few days without being bloated and having mad indigestion...feel much better took about 200g carbs today and veins were starting to rear there head so good sign...got tan on color lookin good so fat
RADAR
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What have i forgot?
RADAR
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are you drinking the red wine before bed? Should be one 8oz glass
Not sure what that means like pushing veins out? Is there any substitute I could use...hope this load and sodium thing works out feel like I am still holding too much water right now especially on lower abs like 2 that make 8 pack...gonna tan today which I leave pools of sweat in bed gonna also hit sauna..taking otc diuretic seems worthless
timing the sodium is hard, it took me 3-4 tries to get it close. I had large variation in peak time each session.
You got that right plj I hope this doesn't screw me...prob shouldn't have messed with it considering out was first time I ever tried this...don't know what to do this last bit of water just doesn't wanna go and I'll never waste my money again on otc diuretic and it was only $ 4.. Worthless
how many days ago did you drop the sodium and how high was your water when loading?
Loaded water at about 2 gallon a day maybe couple cups less..dropped sodium thursday so last day of high sodium was weds just feel like I should be drier and I'm so thirsty I wanna puke also have wixked heartburn today I can't get rid of what you think plj
i had big differences between when i peaked on the sodium depletion. To be honest i thought i was peaking last night so i took pics.... I was insanely thirsty too, i only had 8oz water yesterday and had that before 2... But than i looked even better today.
So, i think ignore the thirst. Take some pics... just in case. and take some more tomorrow, my timing woulda had me peaking sometime tonight if dropped sodium wed night.... so you'll probably be surprised when u wake up i think.... but its amazing how dumpy you can look with a ton o salt in your system...
So, i think ignore the thirst. Take some pics... just in case. and take some more tomorrow, my timing woulda had me peaking sometime tonight if dropped sodium wed night.... so you'll probably be surprised when u wake up i think.... but its amazing how dumpy you can look with a ton o salt in your system...
I hear that bro feel like I looked better sat before I loaded sodium and was still flat from no carbs...hope your right and I look btr tm I had veins on abs last week can't see jack today...thanks for advice I appreciate
Your final pics look good bro no doubt hoping I can give you lil competition!!
Your final pics look good bro no doubt hoping I can give you lil competition!!
Didn't get any help from needto which would have obviously helped and also didn't get to use GCA which I wish I could have cause as you know I've been questioning the strength of the gear I'm using the whole contest but fairly happy with were I got to in 12 weeks considering I was way out of shape ..p ics will be up this afternoon not to bad I don't think just makes me wonder what was possible with supplement help, dieting help, a training program, and some def reliable gear who will ever know!!
Feel lil tighter today but still feel I didn't time sodium well but a lesson learned
Feel lil tighter today but still feel I didn't time sodium well but a lesson learned
its all good bro... im pretty sure my conditioning was off for the final pics... even with good advice, everybody reacts different to peaking like this... this was a first for me as far as bodybuilding goes, i guess i didnt realise how hard it is to get the sodium water and carbs tuned in just right.... i probably ate 8000 yesterday and i swear this morning i looked a bit better...
Got some final pics to roxy she will post for me I'm embarrassed to even turn them in...my load wasn't timed right..couldn't get a pump on top of that I reserved room at gym with mirrors and lights throught the two managers but when I get there today managers no were to be found and there 8 girls from age 6-10 in there doing hip hop dance so took pics in back room with poor lighting..to boot couldn't get a pump just felt flat so just took pics didn't even do any back or leg exercises cause I was so pissed about the whole situation so not happy with these pics at all I'll chalk this up as a lesson learned..these pics just do me no justice very disappointed after all this work
gymjunkie09
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dont feel bad i fucked up the whole deplete load process too lol.......i didn't even get the protocal till monday and iv'e never done anything like that before so it didn't work out to well for me.....i'm still happy with the way i look tho
The whole depletion-loading process is the toughest thing to time. everybody reacts a little differently to carbs and sodium. Its really something you only know how you will react till you do it. I didnt even mess with all that stuff, just tryed to come in as good as I could. I dried out the last week but didnt mess with sodium loading or depletion, just hit a bunch of simple carbs before the pump up. I was too scared to mess it up by trying to come in EVEN BETTER. Its all a learning process for all of us. Im sorry your peak didnt work out as planned man. I had horrible lighting as well. It makes a big difference for sure with the right lighting. I havent seen your pics yet gonna go check em out now man. good luck in this thing bro, try not to be so hard on yourself.
Yea I got my pdotocol on tues so no real time...should of done like you O and just came in like I knew my body and didn't load..light really makes me mad cause I had that planned and got screwed....some reason leg pics didn't go throw email to rox so I well re send them to her
needtogetaas
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Lower Sodom all that week and nothing to almost nothing is fine. Some roman needles a snickers or two and a good NO boosting product hour and a half pre pics. 45-30 mins out get your blood flowing with some working out, oil down and take pics.. Though the timeing can be different for some people. Oe good thing that every one got out of this is you all learned the basics.
gymjunkie09
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that's almost exactly what I did but I had some starburst before my snickers lol
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