Post-Workout - Changing theories???

[massatronic]

75 gms of Cell -Tech, followed by my post workout shake which consists of 50gms Isopure protein, 130gms Maltodextrin, 2 tbs flax oil, 2tbs glutamine, mixed with water...You WILL grow from that. Then an hour later a low fat meal like Sushi. Youll have to adjust your requirments I wiegh 214lbs @ 5-6 % BF, 5'9


You may disagree with 2sick but people are a bit keen to slag him off and call him stupid. You may think he's wrong, you think its not logical but he's offering an opinion, which the thread asked for!

We all know the whey + dextrose theory and have all benefited from it. (As for maltodex I thought it was added for being less sweet, I haven't seen reasons for why it is better/worse/synergistic with dextrose.) But we shouldn't be too quick to slag 2sick off. Remember when high protein came back in favour mid-nineties, scientific theory followed practice. Bodybuilders were being slagged off for moving away from high-carb diets- their reason? Becasue the protein worked and they didn't care if the science said different.

Ronnie Coleman adds olive oil to his PWshakes it hasn't turned him into the Michelin man. I've started adding a teaspoon of olive oil and a teeaspoon of cod liver oil. As ever the results are hard to judge, I think I've benefited by maybe its just a placebo affect.

 

[azul]

According to the USDA health database, a large (8"-8 7/8" long) banana has 121 kcal, 31g carbs, including 3.5g fiber.

Well, it's obvious that you have a very small banana, whereas mine is much larger.

PS: the 20% being fructose won't change.

 

[faller]

My thinking with the banana was so few calories with a reasonably large amount of fructose won't give a decent spike. I agree its probably about 20%. I use 300 calories worth of dextrose in my drink, so a lot more than what he is getting with a banana (not including the honey).

 

[TraxZBT]

I just drink pepsi or coke when i run out of dextrose... Have actually been drinking a 16 ounce after every workout for a couple of months now and see no difference whatsoever.

 

[MikeFBLB]

Just got maltodextrin and dextrin today. I will be putting 50 carbs from dextrin and 60 from maltodextrin w/ Whey.Ill See how that works.

 

[Makavelli]

Yeah, and it's really expensive too. I'd rather get dextrose at $2 a pound. QUOTE]

Well Yeah, but it is a good product. That's why I just use dextrose and creatine. Why spend $50, when you can spend $2?

 

[silverbackn]

Well first off Taking in High GI carbs with protein and complex carbs will cause the GI index to drop a lot depending on what exactly you are doing.

I feel the best thing and my trainer agree's as well. Immediately following your workout I have 75 gms of Cell -Tech, followed by my post workout shake which consists of 50gms Isopure protein, 130gms Maltodextrin, 2 tbs flax oil, 2tbs glutamine, mixed with water...You WILL grow from that. Then an hour later a low fat meal like Sushi. Youll have to adjust your requirments I wiegh 214lbs @ 5-6 % BF, 5'9

Give that a try for 1 month I garantee you will put on wieght.

I like that! Some will disagree because of the fat from the flax, but I like the approach of having some fat in the post-workout shake.

 

[azul]

I like that! Some will disagree because of the fat from the flax, but I like the approach of having some fat in the post-workout shake.

And why exactly? So the insulin spike you're getting from the simple sugars helps you store the fat in your cells?

 

[romoranger]

i have 60g protein and 2 rice cakes right after i workout. works pretty darn good for me.

 

[silverbackn]

And why exactly? So the insulin spike you're getting from the simple sugars helps you store the fat in your cells?

First of all, the fats will mediate the insulin response to some extent. Second of all, you think your body is going to go into lipogenesis post workout because you added 90 calories from an essential fat? It's fact that essential fats improve insulin sensitivity, your body will pump out less insulin and yet it will be just as efficient at restoring glycogen. This means you would probably in turn be less likely to store bodyfat.