Overtraining? Myth?

[coolcolj]

sleep definitely helps.

And you forget that, back in those days there was far less stress.

Its a fact - getting bigger and staying big was much easier back in Arnie's days, if you are natural that is.

 

[Citruscide]

The biggest problem I've ever had in bodybuidling was my diet. Eating enough food to put on the size. I can take 3 hour naps during the day if I have to... but shit, eating enough food to put on size?? That's a problem.

I used to train each body part 2x a week, not really much gains, andI did this while busting my ass on a two a day Track and Field routine at a Big Ten school. It worked wonders for my high jump, but I really didn't get any bigger ... lol.

I've found that working out each body part like a crazed maniac, once a week does the trick. My chest, back, bis, tris are ALWAYS sore after I workout... ever since I instituted my "animal" technique. Much more effective than the 2 hour + sessions.

C-ditty

 

[Thaibox]

perhaps overtraining is not brought on by number sets, reps, how many times a week. perhaps lack of sleep and poor nutriton and other external environmental factors led to overtraining. i think its a combination, althoug i lack the experience to personally comment on this subject, i still think nutrition a TONS OF SLEEP are key to preventing overtraining. any thoughts??????????

I took a few months off of anything resembling work last year and just trained. I slept 9-10 hours with a half hour nap everyday. I ate more than ever. All the variables were ideal. I decided to bump up the volume a little. Two weeks later I was hit with all the typical signs of overtraining and had to take a little break.

That is why pushing yourself to slight overtraining and then backing off works wonders!!!!

CCJ, this is one of those things that takes time(trial and error). IMO this is such a fine line, that you're going to fall over the edge occasionally. Its inevitable. I do agree with you, everyone should train at that point, but damn its hard to stay there.

 

[Lord_Suston]

Ovetraining can really only be sustained for 1-2 weeks in my opinion before your body go bad and you get so run down that you can't adapt,but every once and a while it is okay

 

[louden_swain]

When you can't figure out where you parked your car in a grocery store parking lot. . . . you will then know you are overtrained. Yes, overtraining is miserable and it will run down the system.

 

[Sebass67]

Ok...another question...
If u are overtraining...

Best ways to gain from it...Do u think?

1.) Reduce the volume? Do the same exercises?
2.)Just don;t go to the gym for a couple days to a week?
3.) or do completely different exercises geared for recovery for a workout or two?

 

[b fold the truth]

Sleep a lot more, over eat for several days, cut the volume AND intensity (keep the exercises though) and relax and have fun!!!

B True

 

[vinylgroover]

I know i keep harping on about it, but you best notice that overtraining is real if you're training naturally, and believe me it's real.

It's not about whether you will or won't grow by overtraining, but about the rate at which you grow and maximising the efficiency of your training. It's a known fact that muscle grows when it's resting.

Just take 2 or 3 full days rest a week.

 

[Scaggs]

Nobody mentioned injury. You want to overtrain the delts? Hit a bench press everyday along with some dips and flies and watch your shoulder drop lifting a carton of eggs at the grocery store. You body will adapt, soreness will cease, you'll think your getting stronger and adapting, and then the simplest movement like lifting a gallon of milk to poor in your coffee will blow the rotator cuff. If you try to beat the laws of nature, you're setting yourself up for an injury. Don't forget, back in arnold days, they ate d-ball with their eggs. recovery is much faster than a natural bodybuilder. If i tried arnolds routines with that amount of volume, i think i'd end up in a coma Don't bother trying to beet it, you'll be shoveling shit against the tide. It goes nowhere.

Scaggs

 

[=w=]

Overtraining is DEFFINATLEY a reality, however, I feel many people are overly paranoid about it. However, as mentioned this is where experience with your own body and trial and error (as well as how you manipulate other factors such as caloric intake and rest) come into play.