Opinions please. Welcome to Plateauland. Population: Pintoca

[pintoca]

Pintoca,
Congrats on all of your success with weight loss. Over the last few years I got my bodyfat down from 25% to 10% at 200lbs. It takes a while so don't give up. I was wondering if you ever tried cutting your calories even further for a couple of days and then going back to 2500. This has worked for me whenever I hit a sticking point. As long as you don't loose any strength in your lifts you should be fine. Best of luck.

Thanks man, that is an idea. The lowest I have been is about 1900, which is borderline. You suggest going below BMR (1900 is my BMR) or below 1800 cals in 6 meals?

A couple of days I might have gone below that but only because I skipped meals, but that kills the purpose.

hitting some 1500 cals with 6 meals should do something too, but I won't be able to lift (I guess).

 

[swordfish151]

pintcota, when you say calorie cycled up and down, the only thing you deleted or added was the carbs? no higher protien or fats? just carbs?

 

[pintoca]

nope, on low cals, I was doing 45%P, 30% carbs, and 25% fat... on High carbs, I was doing 35%p, 50%C, 15% f

 

[alex2678]

Pintoca,
This all sounds really familiar too me. I must have spent 8 months when I was dieting, trying out all types of diet combinations of protein, carbs and fats and never lost or gained a pound. One guy at work, who never worked out in his life told me that I was just "eatin too much". After reading all the bodybuilding magazines, I was hesitant to lower my calories for fear of losing size and strength. This was my last shot. I made my usual 6 small meals a day ahead of time and simply ate half. I either put the tupperware container back in the fridge for tommarrow or threw it away. Within a few months I went from 15% bodyfat down to 10% and my strength on all of my lifts stayed the same. Keep training with heavy weights, don't go crazy with the aerobics and drop your calories and you'll be down at least 5 pounds of fat by the end of next month. Good luck.

 

[eat big]

Try swimming. Great workout -- one of the best.

 

[anthrax]

What about supplements?

Ephdedrine HCL + caffeine for example ?

(Clen, T3 or, if you really know what you're doing and do it properly, DNP)

 

[anthrax]

Where's my fattytoca? Anthrax, you know I <3 ya, but I prohibited fattytoca from taking those type of supplements since he became my bitch. Sorry

Yes, Ma'am

But, you know, ephedrine HCl + caffeine in reasonable dosage has little to no side effect

 

[pintoca]

Yes, Ma'am

But, you know, ephedrine HCl + caffeine in reasonable dosage has little to no side effect

Anthrax, thanks for the suggestions Bro, while I know there are things out there that could help me a bit, I believe that going head on into sups when you are still at 20+% BF is a waste of money. I thin there are still options, natural one. I will definitely explore the sups Dpt for my last 5% (14 to 9) (but only if Tiggy allows it by then)

Right now, I have decided to give my body, and myself, a break and started a mini-bulking cycle of 2~4 weeks, just to shake things up and do something different. So far (only 5 days) the experience has been great!!!

 

[pintoca]

OK guys, little update after a week of "bulking" at Maintenance level (2900 cals):

4.1 lbs LBM gained
1.4 lbs FAT gained
5.5 lbs TOTAL gained

Obviously, my body is still getting used to the sudden increase in cals, as nobody should gain this much on maintenance cals.

My plan is to continue to eat at maintenance for 1 more week and then up to real bulking cals at 3500 cals/day and see what happens. Hopefully this will not blow in my face. After 4 weeks, I will return to cutting-mode with a vengeance.

One thing I can tell, besides the fact that going to the Gym and pushing/pulling really heavy stuff is much more fun than working with girly weights is that I swear I can tell where that LBM went: I can see it all in my upper body, specifically in the area around my delt/chest.

During the past 7 days I did cardio.... ONCE, and only for 30 mins... BWHAHAHAHAH

Anyway, will keep you posted on that.

Here a pic of the upperbody (still very much a work in progress)

 

[Rainbows]

Thanks man, that is an idea. The lowest I have been is about 1900, which is borderline. You suggest going below BMR (1900 is my BMR) or below 1800 cals in 6 meals?

A couple of days I might have gone below that but only because I skipped meals, but that kills the purpose.

hitting some 1500 cals with 6 meals should do something too, but I won't be able to lift (I guess).

You must zigzag your calories from ultra low (after cheat days for ex.) to bmr (middle of week) to slightly higher (to spike leptin/metabolism etc)

I'd go 1200-2200 range