My bulking diet

[Joe Stenson]

actually, I'd rather see you skip the shake if you are that worried and just get the meal in............optimal would be to do both

Exactly

 

[swordfish151]

dude.....I eat llike 3 seconds before I crash...sometimes I zonk out mid-chew....seriously....eat.....it can be a 1/2 hour....actually, I'd rather see you skip the shake if you are that worried and just get the meal in............optimal would be to do both.....EAT!

Van wil - how close to bed do you chow?

Perfect! Good to know..so on my late nights i will do the PWO shake and right before i crash at 11 or so..i will consume 1C fatfree cottage cheese/handful of peanuts...

 

[van_wilder]

dude.....I eat llike 3 seconds before I crash...sometimes I zonk out mid-chew....seriously....eat.....it can be a 1/2 hour....actually, I'd rather see you skip the shake if you are that worried and just get the meal in............optimal would be to do both.....EAT!

Van wil - how close to bed do you chow?

done at the gym at 930...and have my shake immediately after with dextrose and oatmeal
then
eat a meal of chicken breast 300g and 1 cup brown rice and 1cup broccoli at 1030
at 1130/12 i'll have some Cott cheese and peanut butter (although this meal has become significantly smaller since i'm cutting ~25g of PRO now) I've been told now that i'm getting further into my cutting that I should cut this meal out as well... and this has been said by numerous diet gurus on this board and others so i'm going to cut it out starting next week.

 

[van_wilder]

done at the gym at 930...and have my shake immediately after with dextrose and oatmeal
then
eat a meal of chicken breast 300g and 1 cup brown rice and 1cup broccoli at 1030
at 1130/12 i'll have some Cott cheese and peanut butter (although this meal has become significantly smaller since i'm cutting ~25g of PRO now) I've been told now that i'm getting further into my cutting that I should cut this meal out as well... and this has been said by numerous diet gurus on this board and others so i'm going to cut it out starting next week.

They've all said not too worry about the carbs before bed, and that it's more important to get these quality carbs in than anything else...so i've been doing that and still cutting bodyfat pretty well. Further into my cutting diet though i'll prob eventually cut these carbs out along with most of the others.

 

[tryn2grow]

do any of you go with the eat anything you see diet?
i mean i'm constantly trying to bulk and don't even want to think about cutting. i started out two years ago at 5' 11'' 160 now i'm 211 as of yesterday and over that period i've probably added about 4% bodyfat. i'm probably around 14% give or take a percent, and to be honest if it has protein in it, I eat it. i don't go around eating doughnuts or anything, but i just try to eat a lot of everything.

 

[borg4902]

I will never eat carbs before bed bulking cutting or cheating. I just dont see the sence in it. Do you need enery while your sleeping? No... For me personally when bulking I will cut all carbs at 6-7pm. Noted in the off-season I go to bed at midnight. Van in my opinion you need to sacrafice carbs at night not protein. Maybe you misunderstood, you could be just taking to much pro from shakes and not real food. Im not shure though, and hey Kurtz, look at the kind of guys that wake up in the middle of the night to eat, fat is the least of there worries.

 

[Joe Stenson]

do any of you go with the eat anything you see diet?
i mean i'm constantly trying to bulk and don't even want to think about cutting. i started out two years ago at 5' 11'' 160 now i'm 211 as of yesterday and over that period i've probably added about 4% bodyfat. i'm probably around 14% give or take a percent, and to be honest if it has protein in it, I eat it. i don't go around eating doughnuts or anything, but i just try to eat a lot of everything.

Some people can get away with that and others can't. I'd wager to say it's never optimal though.

 

[Joe Stenson]

I will never eat carbs before bed bulking cutting or cheating. I just dont see the sence in it. Do you need enery while your sleeping?

While I agree that if you are going to cut one macronutrient before bed it should be carbs, the point of carbs post-workout is glycogen replenishment. This should be done whether you workout at 8am or 8pm, doesn't matter.

 

[van_wilder]

I will never eat carbs before bed bulking cutting or cheating. I just dont see the sence in it. Do you need enery while your sleeping? No... For me personally when bulking I will cut all carbs at 6-7pm. Noted in the off-season I go to bed at midnight. Van in my opinion you need to sacrafice carbs at night not protein. Maybe you misunderstood, you could be just taking to much pro from shakes and not real food. Im not shure though, and hey Kurtz, look at the kind of guys that wake up in the middle of the night to eat, fat is the least of there worries.

i think the argument for it is the fact that my workouts are at night... and the most important time to take in carbs are PW... also, as long as these are very low glycemic carbs the benefits far outweigh the negatives. joe got to it before me... bastard

and borg..were you talking to me about too many shakes from PRO? i'm only taking two shakes all day... one is a casein shake b/w meals and the other is my PW shake (whey)... so where did you get that from?
VW

 

[tryn2grow]

Some people can get away with that and others can't. I'd wager to say it's never optimal though.

i agree with that, but man its tough bein poor in college and trying to cook for yourself. i mean i eat a lot of tuna, chicken, turkey sandwhiches and what not, but pretty much i just eat what i can and a lot of it. it doesn't seem to work to bad. i've gone from being a skinny kid to decent size within few years, and my lifting partner has done the same and he eats like hell and i'd say he is still 8% bf and thats a high estimate, we just sit down and eat anything that comes out way. i was just curious if anyone else felt this way, but it seems that most people on this board count calories, protein, carbs, etc.