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Lifterforlife
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Lack of dairy products(calcium, this is where the majority of our calcium intake comes from) can make your body produce more calcitrol, which can lead to stored fat. Study at the U of Tennessee found this out. So at the least opt for a calcium citrate supplement, easier to digest due to less stomach acid needed.
The dairy folks tout eat 3 a day or something for added fat loss, but studies show maybe a 2 lb. differential at best. And this has got to be hard if not impossible with reasonablilty to percieve.
The Impact of Calcium and Dairy Product Consumption on Weight Loss
Jean Harvey-Berino, Beth Casey Gold, Renee Lauber and Amy Starinski
Department of Nutrition and Food Sciences, University of Vermont, Burlington, Vermont.
Address correspondence to Jean Harvey-Berino, Department of Nutrition and Food Sciences, University of Vermont, 315 Terrill Hall, 570 Main Street, Burlington, VT 05405-0148. E-mail: [email protected]
Objective: Recent evidence suggests that diets high in calcium and dairy products are associated with lower body weight, particularly lower body fat levels. The purpose of this study was to compare weight and body fat loss on a calorie-restricted, low-dairy (CR) vs. high-dairy (CR+D) diet.
Research Methods and Procedures: Fifty-four subjects (BMI 30 ± 2.5 kg/m2, 45 ± 6.6 years, 4 men) were randomly assigned to calorie-restricted (–500 kcal/d) low-dairy calcium (n = 29; 1 serving dairy/d, 500 mg/d calcium) or high-dairy calcium (n = 25; 3 to 4 servings dairy/d, 1200 to 1400 mg/d calcium) diets for 12 months. Main outcome measures included change in weight (kilograms) and body fat (percentage).
Results: There were no significant differences between groups at baseline. At 12 months, weight and body fat loss were not significantly different. Subjects in the CR vs. CR+D conditions lost 9.6 ± 6.5 vs. 10.8 ± 5.9 kg (p = 0.56) and 9.0 ± 3.8 vs. 10.1 ± 3.6 kg body fat (p = 0.37).
Discussion: These findings suggest that a high-dairy calcium diet does not substantially improve weight loss beyond what can be achieved in a behavioral intervention.
Now, should you eat them? I would suggest everyone is different, and you should see. I usually use yogurts during most of my cut.(very low sugar).
In the early stages of a cut, I use regular skim milk, but as I progress, I switch and it is usually the Hoods Dairy Beverage kind...8 gr. of protein, 3 gr. carbs, 80 calories.
The dairy folks tout eat 3 a day or something for added fat loss, but studies show maybe a 2 lb. differential at best. And this has got to be hard if not impossible with reasonablilty to percieve.
The Impact of Calcium and Dairy Product Consumption on Weight Loss
Jean Harvey-Berino, Beth Casey Gold, Renee Lauber and Amy Starinski
Department of Nutrition and Food Sciences, University of Vermont, Burlington, Vermont.
Address correspondence to Jean Harvey-Berino, Department of Nutrition and Food Sciences, University of Vermont, 315 Terrill Hall, 570 Main Street, Burlington, VT 05405-0148. E-mail: [email protected]
Objective: Recent evidence suggests that diets high in calcium and dairy products are associated with lower body weight, particularly lower body fat levels. The purpose of this study was to compare weight and body fat loss on a calorie-restricted, low-dairy (CR) vs. high-dairy (CR+D) diet.
Research Methods and Procedures: Fifty-four subjects (BMI 30 ± 2.5 kg/m2, 45 ± 6.6 years, 4 men) were randomly assigned to calorie-restricted (–500 kcal/d) low-dairy calcium (n = 29; 1 serving dairy/d, 500 mg/d calcium) or high-dairy calcium (n = 25; 3 to 4 servings dairy/d, 1200 to 1400 mg/d calcium) diets for 12 months. Main outcome measures included change in weight (kilograms) and body fat (percentage).
Results: There were no significant differences between groups at baseline. At 12 months, weight and body fat loss were not significantly different. Subjects in the CR vs. CR+D conditions lost 9.6 ± 6.5 vs. 10.8 ± 5.9 kg (p = 0.56) and 9.0 ± 3.8 vs. 10.1 ± 3.6 kg body fat (p = 0.37).
Discussion: These findings suggest that a high-dairy calcium diet does not substantially improve weight loss beyond what can be achieved in a behavioral intervention.
Now, should you eat them? I would suggest everyone is different, and you should see. I usually use yogurts during most of my cut.(very low sugar).
In the early stages of a cut, I use regular skim milk, but as I progress, I switch and it is usually the Hoods Dairy Beverage kind...8 gr. of protein, 3 gr. carbs, 80 calories.
I'd be more concerned with the carb content than the fat.thezan said:
Less fat ... more carbs.
Milk is a great building protein if you are not allergic, but not for cutting up.
thezan
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Yeah i hear ya DZLS, i feel like milk products may be givin me that smooth look.
I find when i eat my CC and yogart(which are both fat, and practicaly carb free) make me feel real full after, even bloated. And when i eat some chicken and veggies i have that dry full feeling, i may have to try to cut it out for a couple weeks and see if i can notice anything changes
thx all
thezan
I find when i eat my CC and yogart(which are both fat, and practicaly carb free) make me feel real full after, even bloated. And when i eat some chicken and veggies i have that dry full feeling, i may have to try to cut it out for a couple weeks and see if i can notice anything changes
thx all
thezan
psychedout
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I don't buy the idea that milk smooths you out. What mechanism could this occur through?
1392477
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try nonfat milk, nonfat cottage cheese and light yogurts instead of their full-fat counterparts.
It's an aquired taste but worth it in the long run. Wean yourself down to 2% then 1% and in a few months you will be drinking skim (nonfat) milk. I mix all of my protein shakes with it and it works to give you extra calories, protein, and calcium.
It's an aquired taste but worth it in the long run. Wean yourself down to 2% then 1% and in a few months you will be drinking skim (nonfat) milk. I mix all of my protein shakes with it and it works to give you extra calories, protein, and calcium.
