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swampmoose
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puts hair on yur chest son!!!!!!
just kiddin man, I was vegetarian for about a year when i was 13.
you gotta watch out what you eat though. to refrain from meat is ok, but you should suppl. with iron and others. have you ever tried FRY CHIK in the can?? that is good shit. loaded with protein. good luck.................." come join the dark side"
puts hair on yur chest son!!!!!!
just kiddin man, I was vegetarian for about a year when i was 13.
you gotta watch out what you eat though. to refrain from meat is ok, but you should suppl. with iron and others. have you ever tried FRY CHIK in the can?? that is good shit. loaded with protein. good luck.................." come join the dark side"
Geez! It's posts like these that make my days interesting 
Being an omnivore or a vegetarian is an individual choice, and to each his own. But, to lash out at someone for being a vegetarian, or vice versa is completely uncalled for. The brashing comes off as ignorace, and cancels out any valid opinions you may have had. What ever happend to intellectual debates?? I guess when people realize that their opinions are just that......opinions.
I was a vegetarian for 6 years, but have now been eating meat for a year now. Being a healthy vegetarian is hard work, and a lot harder than being a healthy omnivore. I can't speak for everyone, but this is defintely the case for me. I ate very healthy for those 6 years, but never once felt as good as I do now (and the only thing changed was my diet).
Humans have been eating meat for so long that our bodies have evolved to the point where it is a requirment in our diet. Times have changed, and obviously we have ways of getting almost the same nutrients from non-meat products, so technically, the partaking of meat can be bypassed with the meat substitues and supplements.
The important thing is to make sure you are getting the nutrients your body needs to grow.
Being an omnivore or a vegetarian is an individual choice, and to each his own. But, to lash out at someone for being a vegetarian, or vice versa is completely uncalled for. The brashing comes off as ignorace, and cancels out any valid opinions you may have had. What ever happend to intellectual debates?? I guess when people realize that their opinions are just that......opinions.
I was a vegetarian for 6 years, but have now been eating meat for a year now. Being a healthy vegetarian is hard work, and a lot harder than being a healthy omnivore. I can't speak for everyone, but this is defintely the case for me. I ate very healthy for those 6 years, but never once felt as good as I do now (and the only thing changed was my diet).
Humans have been eating meat for so long that our bodies have evolved to the point where it is a requirment in our diet. Times have changed, and obviously we have ways of getting almost the same nutrients from non-meat products, so technically, the partaking of meat can be bypassed with the meat substitues and supplements.
The important thing is to make sure you are getting the nutrients your body needs to grow.
AnabolicusEroticus
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Aly, I've dined out with several (which was several more than enough vegetarians, one bveing an ex-stepsister) and I work in the food service industry. So I think I know a little bit more about what goes on in restaurants than you do. So don't even try and tell me that I don't know what goes down in restaurant kitchens and the front of house. There are quite a number of vegetarians, who will go out of their way to give the whole restaurant crew a problem, with their frivolus and ridiculous demands and substitutions. It's as if they expect the whole line to just stop and work their ass off to omit things from this appetizer, obliterate an entree into a new creation, etc... It serves to slow the whole service down, which affects other diners meals as well.
I'm not making blanket stereotypes here, but instead just making objective observations about 'most' vegetarians\vegans.' You are not most, are you? You are an individial, or at least I'd like to beleive that, so plrease stop countering my arguments with. "Well, I don't do that or I don't crave meatr so that can't be true about others." That's called denial and it ends up with you being the one who's stereotyping your own subvulture. Perhaps you just don't dine out on your own or with many other non-meat eaters, so you don;t see or fail to realize hoe rude, difficult and arrogant a large majortiy are, cause that is very well the case.
This is by no means a flame against you. Just my opionion on the vast majortiy of vegetarians, with their holier than thou mentality. You don;t beleive in killing and eating animals, that's cool. But don't fopr a second pull that hype about how much healtheir it is for you, cause that's just not the case. Hoe many latrge, muscular vegetarians do you see? They exist, but are far and few in between. And stop using Pearl as an example, cause out of all the bodybuilders of that time, he was the only one who reached the upper ecelon of the sport and no doubt, genetic played a huge role in overcoming his dieting flaws. How many Olympia contenders do we have in the present who are vegetarians? Uh, zero, so there is definitely a positive correlation there. Because it is a flaw to follow a vegetarian diet, if you want to maximize muscular gains, unless maybe perhaps you consume loads of milk derived protein sources on a daily basis, which can get too repetetive and tedious over time and still may not maximize possible results.
I'm not making blanket stereotypes here, but instead just making objective observations about 'most' vegetarians\vegans.' You are not most, are you? You are an individial, or at least I'd like to beleive that, so plrease stop countering my arguments with. "Well, I don't do that or I don't crave meatr so that can't be true about others." That's called denial and it ends up with you being the one who's stereotyping your own subvulture. Perhaps you just don't dine out on your own or with many other non-meat eaters, so you don;t see or fail to realize hoe rude, difficult and arrogant a large majortiy are, cause that is very well the case.
This is by no means a flame against you. Just my opionion on the vast majortiy of vegetarians, with their holier than thou mentality. You don;t beleive in killing and eating animals, that's cool. But don't fopr a second pull that hype about how much healtheir it is for you, cause that's just not the case. Hoe many latrge, muscular vegetarians do you see? They exist, but are far and few in between. And stop using Pearl as an example, cause out of all the bodybuilders of that time, he was the only one who reached the upper ecelon of the sport and no doubt, genetic played a huge role in overcoming his dieting flaws. How many Olympia contenders do we have in the present who are vegetarians? Uh, zero, so there is definitely a positive correlation there. Because it is a flaw to follow a vegetarian diet, if you want to maximize muscular gains, unless maybe perhaps you consume loads of milk derived protein sources on a daily basis, which can get too repetetive and tedious over time and still may not maximize possible results.
AnabolicusEroticus said:
u know what, you do you think u are.... telling me what and what not to say. first off ur bringing up the food industry for what reason? Did anyone mention anythiing about the food industry? Even if it does exist, who give a flying fuck..... get over it!!!! This seems to be your problem so deal with it.... quit crying about it..... you keep on bringing it up....
And i never said iwhat is healither and what is not! I dont know which is more healthier and i dont care, becuase i dont eat meat, and that's fine with me.... it seems like you have more of a problem than i do about not eating meat....... fuck grab a life...... and go FUCK YOUSELF!!!!!!!!!
rippedtrojan
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i think you forgot meat in your diet. i'm not sure, but i'll look again...
AnabolicusEroticus
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Why do I bring up the food industry? Are you that fucking comatose that you don't see a connection between the two? Vegetarians as well as their omnivorous counterparts don't dine out and shop for food? Do you still forage for all your nuts and berries like your ancient ancestors who were foragers or grow your own vegetables in your garden or on your farm? No, I didn't think so. So, if you are so out of the loop that you cant even compregend a correlation between the food industry and customers of all types, yet instead choose to personally attack me verbally, then you've proven yourself toi be an outstanding fucking moron.
And I never said soy wasn't a complete protein, just not an optimal one, so I suggest you don't lash out so quickly since you seem like the stubborn type who hear what you want to hear and can't anaalyze things objectively. Good luck compromising your bodybuilding goals with your rabbit food diet and high estrogen levels which bear a negative correltion with testosterone levels.
And I never said soy wasn't a complete protein, just not an optimal one, so I suggest you don't lash out so quickly since you seem like the stubborn type who hear what you want to hear and can't anaalyze things objectively. Good luck compromising your bodybuilding goals with your rabbit food diet and high estrogen levels which bear a negative correltion with testosterone levels.
Geez, why did it turn so negative.
AnabolicusEroticus...you may say you are not putting a stereotype on vegetarians, but that's what it sounds like to me. You even go as far to say "most vegetarians....". I'm sorry you have had bad run-ins with vegetarian diners, but that doesn't nearly cover "most".
You really seem to have a deep hatred for vegetarians. I know many vegetarians, and none of them would ever cause a scene at a restaraunt such as you describe. But I guarantee you get the same percentage of complaints/special orders from meat eaters as well. Obviously there are more meat eaters, therefore it seems less frequent.
I've asked a couple of my friends whom are cooks at restaraunts to see if they have the same complaints, and neither do. They have had a couple requests that they either met or turned away, but the denials never escalated. Sorry you've had such bad luck.
AnabolicusEroticus...you may say you are not putting a stereotype on vegetarians, but that's what it sounds like to me. You even go as far to say "most vegetarians....". I'm sorry you have had bad run-ins with vegetarian diners, but that doesn't nearly cover "most".
You really seem to have a deep hatred for vegetarians. I know many vegetarians, and none of them would ever cause a scene at a restaraunt such as you describe. But I guarantee you get the same percentage of complaints/special orders from meat eaters as well. Obviously there are more meat eaters, therefore it seems less frequent.
I've asked a couple of my friends whom are cooks at restaraunts to see if they have the same complaints, and neither do. They have had a couple requests that they either met or turned away, but the denials never escalated. Sorry you've had such bad luck.
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