help with my (no meat) diet...

[aky]

Aky, you want me to prove the fact that most vegetarians xrave meat? That was a generalized statemtn, not an overgeneralized one, hence UI used the word majority and not 'all.' you don't crave meat, good for you. But if you have an objective bone in your body and aren't blindsisded by your beleifs you'll see that the all these soy products you find that are veggie friendly look like meat, are shaped like meat, share a bad version of a similar taste and texture of meat, etc... Are you going to tell me that these products are not prevalent in vegan restaurants and health food markets. Unless your blind you've obviously noticed.

And I do beleive vegetarians can build a good physique as long as their lacto-ovo vegetarians and consume dairy products as their staple protein souce as opposed to soy. I actually like soy, but I eat it the way it was supposed to be eaten for centuries by the Japanese, then Chinese and Koreans. Most vegetarian have never even tried asiian versions of soy products, cause they don't look like a burger patty or a cheap imitation of a hot dog.

So, I have no problem with vegetarians as long as they keep their beleifs and opinions to between themselves and don't give a hassle to people in the food service industry, thinking they owe them some special treatment. Like I already stated previously, if you're so anal don't dine out at regular restaurants and expect the cooks to meet some ridiculous demands that I have heard vegetarian demand, like cooking their food in pans, which have never had meat in them, etc... Whatever?! If you have that type of abrasiveness, then I hope they do cook your food in lots of lard. If you're not a not pompous asshole, who doesn't think you're vegetarian beleifs make you superior to the majority who make up meat-eaters, then I have np problem with that.

i never once complained of and restaurants.... and i dont expect special treatment, nor do i think "vegetarian beleifs make you superior to the majority" ..... where are you getting is bull shit from..... no on here said they "give a hassle to people in the fool industry".....

If you are one who eats food in the the way it was supposed to be eaten for centuries, then why dont you go hunt ur food down, and cook it over a fire...... like the cave men use to do!!!!! i know this sounds stupid, but this is honestly how you sound.......

I never once bashed any meat eat-eaters, i simply just asked about my diet and lifestyle.......

 

[drveejay11]

My hat goes off to you bro in some way----I couldn't live without meat!!!!

Just a comment/suggestion: have you ever tried those liquid amino fuel concentrates???? It may be something you can add to your meatless regimine for a protein source ---I'm sure you're looking for options..........Peace

 

[swampmoose]

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meat puts fukin hair on yur chest son!!!!!!yyyeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

 

[wartime100]

No meat?!? What are you a fucking rabbit?

 

[aky]

My hat goes off to you bro in some way----I couldn't live without meat!!!!

Just a comment/suggestion: have you ever tried those liquid amino fuel concentrates???? It may be something you can add to your meatless regimine for a protein source ---I'm sure you're looking for options..........Peace

thanks for the advice....

 

[bigpun]

Why is meat some religous thing? Are you one of those rag-head fuckers who did LAX? If so I got one message from you from a aMERICAN patriot dude and that is:

ENDURING FREEDOM

I'm willing to bet alot of money that you've never obtained any post-secondary education in your life.

WTF does Aky's choice to be a vegetarian have to do with assaulting your country and sense of patriotism?

BTW dumbass, several religions in this world make use of a turban, which you affectionately refer to as a rag-head. Guess what dipshit, alot of those religions have nothing to do with being a muslim, they are completely different practices. Did any of those high jackers have a turban during 9/11? Next time you see a person wearing a turban, consider the fact that he may not even be a muslim.

Save some money on some meat and protein and go invest it in an education.

 

[Fish]

This is the funniest, or most pathetic (sp?) post I have ever read. Though I was pathetic enough to read the whole thing. This has gone from someone asking for help to a debate over meat and american spirit. Sad, very sad. I lived with a true american non-meat-eating girl. She never came off as a nazi, or anything close... unless I forgot to do the dishes

She even let me eat meat with no "preaching" about it. I even learned how to cook some great meals that don't include meat. Meals I still eat today.

I am sad to see someone with so little openness claiming they are this way because they are a good American. It is not what the American image needs. Proud to be an American, cause at least I know I'm free... free to not eat meat I think would fit here.


Best luck with your diet. Sorry I have no help to offer.

 

[hookuprx]

MuscularWarrier (btw, what the fuck is with the spelling on this?), time and time again - in your short membership here at elitefitness, you prove to be undeniably retarded and closed minded. Eating habits relating to anti-patriotism? Your fucking stupid. Like others suggest, I think a real education would do you good. Keep your mouth shut and learn, or live with being hated.

thederrickm

 

[hookuprx]

To AKY, soy would probably be your best bet for protein sources and trading fruits for veggies would be a wise choice. Also, if you have the time - if you were a real vegan, you wouldnt consume cottage cheese or any other dairy products. Why are you selective on the animal products that you eat? I understand not eating them, or eating them.. So enlighten please.

thederrickm

 

[HansNZ]

Where the hell did this irrational outburst come from???

Gt the hell of your high horse HansNZ. O find this to be a common trait in vegetarians by the way. Vegeyatains and their evil sunsect, vegans go against everything the human pirit stands for.Beleive it or not, out biological makeup is ominivorous and we are designed and able to consume and assimilate meat efficiently. And don't tell me that the veggie\ruffage, abuse the shit out of the soybeam to emulate meat mentality is healthy.

Well I wasn't aware that I was on my high horse. I quite neutrally stated the facts. Where did all this human spirit/pseudo-scientific goobledy gook come from? Are you mentally stable?

Proven fact. The majority of veg heads crave meat, hence the multilation of soy products to serve as a substute for meat. Veggie 'burgers', veggie 'meatloaf' and even these faux chinese vegan restaurants that have these ridiculoous menus with categories like chicken, beef, pork. fish, etc... using various vegetables and soy products to what else? emulate meat products.

I don't crave meat. Like horsemeat or cat or dog meat I just don't consider it food. As for the substitute meat I find that is the sort of stuff that meat eaters buy me because they think that if I don't want to eat meat then I must want something that tastes like meat.

Most vegetarians and vegans have absolutely no clue what fine, pure tofu even tastes like. It's unhealthy, raisesestrogen levels in men, along with promoting excessively high insulin levels leading to type-II diabetes in many veg heads. Not to mention that most vegetarian looks like absolute physical shit, cause they're not getting adeqaute complete proteins and nutrients on a daily basis.

You talk about facts even though it is a long established fact that soy is indeed a complete protein. I have hardly seen evidence to show that consumption of something like soy is detrimental to people's health. In fact it seems to be linked to more and more positive benefits all the time.

You want to live your life meat free. Fine, I could care less,

Well obviously you do care less otherwise you wouldn't have had this hysterical irrational outburst.

but don' try and patronize the majority who eat meat and spew your propaganda about the benefit of an animal free diet. People here have defended you and you stil come off as a pompous asshole, who thinks you know it all and expect the world to cater to your annoying needs.

Yikes! You read all this into my two small posts? All I did was diagree with statements which have no basis in fact. How is me disagreeing with you "pompous and expecting everyone to cater to my needs", when you yourself have made disagreeing comments.

Eat vegetarian, then eat only at veggie friendlyrestaurants or stay at home. I can't stand vegetarians who go to regular eateries and give the total restaurant staff a hassle, cause they think their needs are special and everyone should bend over backwards to agree with their criteria. And no, I doubt you will maxiize possible gains on a vegetarian diet, unless the majority of ypur protein needscome from things such as whey, casein(cottage chese), other milk derived profucts, etc... And stop trying to convince yourself that soy has no estrogenic properties and in fact is antiestrogenic cause you're living in a dreamworld if you sincerely beleive that bullshit.

You are clearly psychotic.