help - today i want to start my first workout

[wyst]

look, i've been on elite since feb of 2001 and i didn't register until march... i think i freaking know what i'm doing. i read the women's board every day even if i don't post on it.

who are you to judge what i do and do not know about as use and the risks, or assume that because i make a joke i'm somehow unconcerned with what i put in my body? who said i was some kind of poster girl? to quote arnold, "my body my decision"...

i "appreciate" your concern, but if you don't mind, your thoughts are not necessary or wanted because they are so incredibly hostile. thanks for sharing and caring though.

this is why i wasn't going to post about my cycle on the board. some of the people here think that there is some specific amount of years that allows one to join the "as club".

i was an athlete all my life so don't act like this is the first time i've looked at a weight or been in shape before.

Hey Smalls...

I hope that givent hat this stuff that you were afraid was gonig to happen did, you go ahead and post about your cycle ofr us newbies who haven't yet joined the "AS Club..."



I mean jeez, it's not like she's shooting whole grams of halo directly into her clit or something. We have plenty of other women here whose first cycle was deca or winny that they took because their bf told them to. Smalls has like 10,000 posts on this board. She has done a fair amount of reading too, I think. We got other people on other threads on this board doing G, for crying out loud, with less of a hullabaloo than this. Not that I'm flaming the G people, I'm just saying, on the scale of things...

Can we de-escalate this? Do India and Pakistan have to go to war?

Wyst

 

[hardbdygrl]

what the fuck do you care what she is putting in *HER* body, not yours? what the fuck do you care if she makes jokes at her own expense? you are really fucking ridiculous, don't you have anything better to bitch about?

im ridiculous huh Ridiculous for having an opinion?
well im sorry,,, but u have your opinion and i have mine.
I guess are not a caring person..............i feel bad for you I really do.
Hope u have a wonderful day now that u have gotten ur frustration out!

 

[Belial]

It's a chat board, yeah, like Pauly said. But this ain't just a place for support... if somebody posted about a ridiculous crash diet they were doing, or an idiotic, self destructive routine, people would come down on them like a ton of bricks, and at the very least try to discourage them.

People are expressing their opinions... the risks involved in this case seem unnecessary considering where smalls is at right now (sorry about the third person). The fact is, AS usage (for women especially) is a risky business to begin with, and I think a problem with Elite is that many women who normally wouldn't even consider steroid usage begin to believe it's a normal way to overcome their perceived fitness "barriers".

The women here who are appalled at the usage in this case are all people who have busted their asses naturally, have true dedication, a passion for the lifestyle, and already had the bodies to show this before they started. It takes a certain amount of maturity and willingness to accept risks to take things to the next level, and it's not something to enter into lightly. So I can understand the skepticism when someone (who quite honestly looks like they could benefit hugely from a few months of serious eating and heavy training) says they're ready to start taking anabolic substances. It's not a f-ing joke, and people SHOULD be concerned. I don't think this is a bad thing... it would be the biggest crime (and dereliction of duty on the part of the women and men here) if they'd all just clap their hands and say "good luck".

blah blah blah.

 

[smallmovesal]

i think a lot of this has to do with the fact that i am a thin person naturally... i don't need to simply just "eat" - i am basically at my natural weight... i am built like this naturally and have always been this way. why else would i naturally be at a 16% bf level?

i obviously recognise the risks and i am aware of what i am doing. i'll reiterate that i was an athlete all my life and all the muscle i have built up over the past year for the most part hasn't gone anywhere.

i'm not asking for lectures about what i am doing - i well aware of what i am doing and i see no problem with it. i was asking a simple question regarding weight gain. i think everyone should just respect my decision and help me when i have questions.

otay?

 

[luvs2workout]

***** THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE*********

Belial

You couldnt have said it better...

The fact that the majority of the posts were congratulating her and her decision is the thing that puzzled me the most!!! Yes, we are here for support..but we are also here for guidance, right??????

Honestly --- Im a little dissapointed that some of our most trusted, knowledgable board members havent commented

 

[pauly]

im ridiculous huh Ridiculous for having an opinion?
well im sorry,,, but u have your opinion and i have mine.
I guess are not a caring person..............i feel bad for you I really do.
Hope u have a wonderful day now that u have gotten ur frustration out!

get em girl............grrrrrrrrrrr

 

[luvs2workout]

i'll reiterate that i was an athlete all my life and all the muscle i have built up over the past year for the most part hasn't gone anywhere.

otay?

O really smalls - well this seems a bit contradictory to your post a few weeks ago:
owwie first workout since september
this coming semester i'm going to keep up the workouts i promise! i need them for stress release.

plus it pisses me off to see how much strength i've lost over the semester.


thought you kept it all??? haha... why dont you just go ahead and admit it..you took the easy road...you werent dedicated and you just wanted to lay out by the pool and build some muscles..sorry hun - it doesnt work that way

 

[smallmovesal]

yeah i was lying out by the pool lazy... that's totally it.

and i was referring more to my quads and triceps more than anything. i lost some strength in them but not the size.

why don't you ask someone who knows me why i took the semester off... i had a damn good reason that is none of your business actually. but go ahead and ask..

anyway, why do you persist on trying to prove some kind of point to me?

it's my choice to do this so deal with it. i know my body better than anyone.

 

[starfish]

You know luvs, I might even agree with you on some points..

But they way you post is so insulting people are bound to be defensive.. WHy would she listen to that??

At least smalls was honest about her cycle- SHE DIDN"T HAVE TO TELL ANY OF US!!

 

[tripleV]

whoa did i miss a doozy here, but i will give my .02 here also.

I have spoken to smalls about her current first cycle and i also know about her training and diet etc... furthermore I know that she is a thin person who eats enough calories ( i know her diet), and has difficulty putting on the weight, as well as muscle mass
(i also know she trains hard). I think that she will benefit from the ox, it will help her to gain weight and build some lean muscle tissue, so why shouldn't she do a cycle? She is doing everything right imo. I mean just because she's not huge to begin with, doesn't mean she's not ready for a cycle and surely does not mean she has not been training and dieting properly to begin with.

She is educated on the sides, so she kidded around about some sides, but she obviously knows the deal with women on AS. Although she doesn't post on the women's board that often, she will chime in once in a while and does read it for knowledge.

I honestly think that any girl who has done a cycle cannot preach to someone else to not do it just because her goals may not be the same. Smalls isnt out to compete or get huge, she just wants to gain some proper weight...