Gotta have carbs to burn fat

[wilson6]

In fact, rather than ratios, ie. 2 days of low CHO and 3 high or whatever because this doesn't always flow well with lifting, just increase carbs on heavy lifting days and keep the carbs low at all other times.

W6

 

[wilson6]

But, my only reservation to chronic low carbs other than before and after workouts is reduced protein synthesis. Carbs = insulin = uptake of essential AAs into muscle. So, unless one is "cutting", chronic low carb intake might limit muscle mass gains particularly if you're not juicing.

W6

 

[NY Muscle]

i think the low to ZERO carbs is the best way to burn fat and the quickest...i do feel juice is needed though, even though in theory this diet is supposed to preserve muscle, the lack of fullness and water retention you make you look and feel small...so as they say TEST IS BEST for a guy that is....and on ANY diet for that matter...i ONLY juice when i diet...i EAT when i want to gain size.

on a side note, a friend of mine, a national level competitor, quite famous, has been in many ads for universal nutrition...he takes 2gms of test when DIETING and maybe 1gm when gaining...too many people do it assbackwards and wonder why they lose size when they diet.

anyway back to the diet... i used to take maybe 50gms of dextrose and or maltodextrin pre and post workout....soemtimes i had that pre bottled stuff from worldwide nutrtion...has 35gms of whey isolate, and i think 40-50gms of pure maltodextrin. other tricks i used to do (not anymore) was take in mayb 75-100gms of glucose post w/o with some FAST acting insulin (humalog)..very dangerous thing to do but if done right (most do it wrong) u will be fine and be back in ketosis within 1hr after post carb drink.
also i would do small doses of insulin after my one big carb day every 10 days...about 2-3ius every hour until i was recording ketones on my ketostix... the 2 problems with insulin and low carbs is....you can get fucked up bad...like anytime you use insulin..but moreso on low carbs....you can fix this very easy...if u feel a crash just drink a tons of carbs, within 20 seconds you feel fine..but guess what...you just fucked up the diet and wont hit ketosis for another day or 2....so its very very tricky.
dont be stupid and try to fight off the crash with no carbs, its not fun to see white snow as we call it in ur eyes and feel like ur in a dream and ready to pass out.

 

[KBgrl]

My headache went away -- This thread is getting gooood!


NY-- I've low carbed before a nothing freakin happens to me. I usually just stay the same. WTF! hehe

 

[KBgrl]

o another question NYdork -- does it matter if you lift at night and then take carbs in at night? For some reason I can't get with it when I lift in the AM or in the afternoon. When I lift when it's dark out I'm an animal. I can really get my lift on around 8pm or so!! I usually do my cardio in the AM though.

Ok answer my questions biatch. **kiss** KBaby

 

[NY Muscle]

My headache went away -- This thread is getting gooood!


NY-- I've low carbed before a nothing freakin happens to me. I usually just stay the same. WTF! hehe

few reasons and ive seen it one too many times with my female clients and or friends

#1 you arent eating enough fat ...females are i think born with the fear of fat...they think 20gms of fat is a lot lol

#2 you are eating too many carbs...

#3 you are consuming too many cals( that would be on any diet) but you should know how many you eat a day......and on this diet you should cycle your calls between 10-12 times yoru bodyweight in calls so if you were 125 thats 1250-1500cals, soem women do better in the lower rang of 9-10 cals per lbs of boydweight, guys can use the higher range.

#4 along the lines of too little fat and too many carbs...u never hit ketosis and you wont know unless you use ketostix..once you get to be like me you know when you are in ketosis by the taste in ur mouth the way you feel and the smell of your urine lol

he was how i did my diet

ok so lets say 230lbs i would eat 300+ gms or protein a day,ZERO carbs or under 30 it usually comes out to with all the hidden carbs in foods, 150gms sometimes much much hight of fat
a day.

 

[NY Muscle]

o another question NYdork -- does it matter if you lift at night and then take carbs in at night? For some reason I can't get with it when I lift in the AM or in the afternoon. When I lift when it's dark out I'm an animal. I can really get my lift on around 8pm or so!! I usually do my cardio in the AM though.

Ok answer my questions biatch. **kiss** KBaby

yeah thats fine you should be ok, unless u go right to bed after you drink the carbs, i would keep the carbs low post workout or dont even bother post w/o i used to do pre w/o carbs and post w/o or soemtimes just one and not the other. i think youd be better with pre w/o carbs.

so now ur kissing me? lol hmmm

 

[KBgrl]

NY-- HUH? you think I would better off doing carb for pre workout but not after If i train at night? or reverse?


and yea im kissin you.... I have a feeling one day we're gonna get naughty together, yes it's true...i may finally let you be my luv slave.It always happens like that. I end up with the very people that push my buttons the wrooooong way. You may just get lucky slut

thx for the info-

 

[NY Muscle]

NY-- HUH? you think I would better off doing carb for pre workout but not after If i train at night? or reverse?


and yea im kissin you.... I have a feeling one day we're gonna get naughty together, yes it's true...i may finally let you be my luv slave.It always happens like that. I end up with the very people that push my buttons the wrooooong way. You may just get lucky slut

thx for the info-

well yeah cause ur activity level at night after the gym im sure is limited and u will be sleeping with the carbs *in your system* and at rest you use mainly fat as fuel ( i think) and you wont be burning off the rest of the carbs that you had post workout.
i mean if ur having 5 hour long sex sessions (my specialty) then you will have no problem burning them off.

and ur right i usually end up fucking the girls i fight with most, lots of sexual tension built up, sometimes its a grudge fuck ( one of the best types of fucks known to man)
...but being that you dotn send me pics...ill just have to stare at your avatar of monica brant...

 

[NY Muscle]

so yes take in pre workout carbs only unless its like 15-20gms post workout...everyones different you have to use trial and error.