Cut and Heal: my HST journal

[Jim Ouini]

Trying to wriggle out if it now then?

Like the proverbial fat pants

 

[blut wump]

If the pants fit, wear them.

 

[anotherbutters]

You bastards

 

[Tweakle]

Could be worse, you could be shopping in the boys section for your pants.

Just saw the pics and you're looking thick bro, nice size on you and you look strong.. hope the HST thing works out for ya.. you have the same relatively smaller chest that I do, traps overpower it

you cutting naturally?

 

[Guinness5.0]

you cutting naturally?

For now yes. Since I've never really tried to cut I figure I should at least learn what works for me first. Then if it stalls, if I'm losing too much muscle or if I just get too frustrated I'll poke.

I already have the tren (to which I'd add prop and maybe clen) so I guess it's just a matter of time

I went with HST 'cause of the higher rep phases, lower volume per bodypart per session, and to see what increased frequency will do for me. My back's been hurting and I hope this will allow it to heal a bit before I go balls out weight-wise. Plus I like to try new stuff when it looks valid.

 

[Tweakle]

interesting.. the way I look at it, it takes less AAS to build muscle than to keep it - the reason being food is so anabolic in huge doses and when you're starving yourself (cutting) the body is gonna strip away non-essential tissues first.

Last time I cut I ran a very light 75mg ED of tren only, held some muscle and got very lean but I think I would have held a lot more on double that. First time I cut I went natural, right after a cycle, and after the first 4 weeks I started losing size bigtime despite no intense cardio and lots of protien

 

[Guinness5.0]

interesting.. the way I look at it, it takes less AAS to build muscle than to keep it - the reason being food is so anabolic in huge doses and when you're starving yourself (cutting) the body is gonna strip away non-essential tissues first.

Last time I cut I ran a very light 75mg ED of tren only, held some muscle and got very lean but I think I would have held a lot more on double that. First time I cut I went natural, right after a cycle, and after the first 4 weeks I started losing size bigtime despite no intense cardio and lots of protien

I remember your old black and white av pic... is that the condition you're referring to? You were not as big as now but def. lean as hell. The first time I saw one of your DL vids I thought "oh that's not him in the av" but then saw the tat .

That sounds logical about needing more gear to cut, but I wonder if it holds true in my specific case. I suspect it would have to do with where one is in relation to "natural limits" (I hate that phrase but I don't know how to word it better).

Since I haven't juiced in a while I wonder if I'd still do well to use just a little versus someone who had recently added 30 (or whatever) pounds with AAS - my guess would be that someone who's been 100% natty for several months would be more apt to hang onto muscle while dieting.

Thoughts?

 

[Singleton]

Thanks Jim

Here's a link to answer your q:
http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=13;t=1

It does seem possible that fast movements could reduce the contraction.

I know I "feel" it a lot more if I slow down. I get a big burn and pump.

I can't actually look inside the muscle and "see" what is going on, but I do wonder about the factor of time. I feel like time and speed does really matter.

So I also wonder if concentrating on contracting the muscle can change recruit more fibers. I can focibly flex my biceps more than necessarywith 25lb dumbells and get a big pump and be really sore using a 2-1-2 tempo. I'll get more sore than if I went for the 35lb dumbells but moved faster and didn't conciously try to squeeze hard, say a tempo of 1-0-1 (or faster).

So I wonder, if my experience training and mentall trying to work the muscle as hard as possible (by concentrating on squeezing it) is going to be counterproductive to progressive overload. I mean, if I'm doing light weight, but making it "seem" heavier by concentrating, I think I may be setting myself up so that I won't get progressively greater muscle damage, so when I get to the heavier wieghts, they won't be as effective due to my concious contracting of the muscle with the lighter weights.

It is my doubt.

 

[Guinness5.0]

Singleton-

I interpreted that post (EDIT: "that post" meaning the link in the post you quoted above) above as saying, in a nutshell, that you make the light weeks tougher by playing with the rep tempo but you keep the weights moving upward. As the resistance increases over the course of the program the tempo will be dictated by the difficulty of the weight. Overall, progressive resistance is the backbone.

Also the whole point of the 15's (as I understand it) is purely to condition the joints by flushing them with lactic acid. So you do whatever you need to do to increase the lactic acid burn and rep tempo is one factor.

 

[Guinness5.0]

PIC UPDATE

I know it's a little quick but I'll be coinciding my pic updates with the new phases of the HST program. Since I start 15's today I took some pics last night. Not much to say but I'm happy that there appears to be a bit of fat loss:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5423495&postcount=8

Measurements at time of pics:
Shoulders: 53" (no change )
Right arm: a shade under 16 7/8" (down a little)
Belly: 41" (down a half inch )
Waist: 39" (no change )

EDIT: weight is at 237 (down 4 pounds )