ChAos & PAIN workout- your opinion?

[ronki23]

What's your opinion on the ChAos & PAIN workout system? I personally think it is full of both volume and intensity so can't see people being able to stick to it for very long (though I admit I have yet to try it).

He seems to hate Rippetoes/ 5x5 as well (even though they work). Has Ripp actually said anything about this guy as Jamie seems to insult him

Also, I have a bad gym at University (we have 2- one of them only has a Jones Machine,Smith Machine and dumbbells but no bar [except EZ bars] while the other gym has everything except a Squat Rack); what is your opinion of Jones Machines as it's awkward doing squats and deadlifts with dumbbells (I am progressing but it's very hard to do so with them, especially as dumbbell squats/deadlifts are very similar movements)

 

[Buildingup24]

It's intense. 90% of your max for 15 singles is hell

 

[ronki23]

It's very annoying how one gym has barbells but no squat rack and the other has only dumbbells. Tried to do 'bears' today as I had to rush through the workout and could not lock out on the press in the Jones Machine.

If it helps the dumbbells go up to 2x95lbs and I can't go that heavy but linear progression is very hard with dumbbells.

P.S I'm surprised nobody's said anything against CnP workout since Jamie seems to hate Weider, Ripp AND 5x5

 

[Buildingup24]

It's very annoying how one gym has barbells but no squat rack and the other has only dumbbells. Tried to do 'bears' today as I had to rush through the workout and could not lock out on the press in the Jones Machine.

If it helps the dumbbells go up to 2x95lbs and I can't go that heavy but linear progression is very hard with dumbbells.

P.S I'm surprised nobody's said anything against CnP workout since Jamie seems to hate Weider, Ripp AND 5x5

He doesn't think 5x5 is the god of workouts that ppl make it out to be. U also have to consider he is so strong that a 5x5 is very different. He likes high intensity is big on low Ish carbs I like his blog n his concepts.