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macrophage69alpha said:
I'd make a joke here about suddenly doing quantum physics, but I think I could pound a whole bottle of Neurogenex and still not be able to wrap my mind around them.
(Besides, curing cancer tops my list of what I'd do if I were smart enough...)Nothing new to report, really, just amazing clarity of thought and elevated mood. I'm still having problems putting into words what it does for me, but it's like night and day. If I didn't mention this earlier, I'm a newbie to nootropics, so my experience may be somewhat more pronounced than someone who's been taking them for awhile. And I believe a good deal of my insomnia had to do with not being in my own bed - isn't one of the treatments for sleep disorders to re-create the exact same conditions every time you get to sleep? Same bed, same time?
I know a lot of you ladies don't venture over to the Anabolic forum, but there's another thread there with Neurogenex feedback: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=251931
I'm tempted to take two at once and see if I experience the change in vision people are talking about...
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Ceebs said:
No joke honey - I'M suddenly doing quantum physics and would be happy with ANYTHING that would give me even a tiny fraction more insight - reading a lovely litle primer called "The Ghost in the Atom" - cannot put it down, wishing for something Alice-like to shrink me down there for a closer look. As for curing cancer, don't think quantum physics isn't there - I have a friend who's looking at quantum physics as a leaping off point for a consideration of an equation expressing cure. Believes that DNA exists in a liminal state on the border of the quantum world - unbelievably exciting, thrilling - wish I had a few more brains ...
Soshite, anata no nihongo wa kanarazu juubun da yo! Hatsuon wa dou daroo? Nihon he itte mite! Tashika ni, daiskii na no da!
And my grammar sucks too
Where do you get your hands on the Neurogenex? AF? I need some before my exams in October, heh heh
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Took two Neurogenex at once yesterday, a couple of observations:
Vision was definitely altered for a couple of hours. You know how when you focus on an object for a little while, an outline of it appears in your vision? That phenomenon was happening when I'd look at something for more than a couple of seconds. Interesting. No change in color or light perception. I've never done any psychedelics, but if that's kind of what having a trip is like...
Also, a double dose seems to burn through acetylcholine powerfully fast, and even made me mildly nauseous (the Piracetam, maybe?). I had to double up my choline supplementation to keep from feeling uneasy. For that reason, I will not be taking a double dose again, when one seems to elicit just the right amount of nootropic effect with no dysphoria.
And Steel, I love you, girl, but you lost me after "juubun da yo". I'd probably understand if it were written in Japanese - I wonder if Elite supports Japanese fonts?
Vision was definitely altered for a couple of hours. You know how when you focus on an object for a little while, an outline of it appears in your vision? That phenomenon was happening when I'd look at something for more than a couple of seconds. Interesting. No change in color or light perception. I've never done any psychedelics, but if that's kind of what having a trip is like...
Also, a double dose seems to burn through acetylcholine powerfully fast, and even made me mildly nauseous (the Piracetam, maybe?). I had to double up my choline supplementation to keep from feeling uneasy. For that reason, I will not be taking a double dose again, when one seems to elicit just the right amount of nootropic effect with no dysphoria.
And Steel, I love you, girl, but you lost me after "juubun da yo".
I'd probably understand if it were written in Japanese - I wonder if Elite supports Japanese fonts?macrophage69alpha
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the effect may also be due to increased dopamine.. hard to say
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macrophage69alpha said:
It's completely manageable by eating a small amount of something carb-rich and low-glycemic (like a small orange bell pepper or handful of blueberries), and in no way does it take away from the product's benefits. Though it does seem to elicit a greater cognitive boost the less food I have in my stomach...
I notice an additional nootropic effect the more choline I take even with single doses (750 mg - 1 gram), plus Siberian Ginseng. Ahhhh...
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Ceebs -
Did you experience any dehydration at all? I took the first one around 2 pm today - I took 2 diphenhydromine (OTC sleeping aids) last nite & slept great, and also slept in. I got up & at 'em, went out for lunch, ran some errands & drove home in a rain storm and then I just started getting flaky.
I took the 1 pill at 2-ish pm & it got me going again, but I started getting flaky again around 6 pm. The question of nap or gym came up. Nap won, except I got a phone call & ended up just staring at the tv. I'm getting ready to drop off here really soon, which is good (insomnia overcome! i hope). I did notice that my throat is really dry - not raspy but it feels very dry. I had a couple diet cokes today, but lots of water. Very strange.
Tomorrow I'll be hitting the N-nex earier in the day to see if I can stop being flaky. I have a VERY big drive ahead of me in 2 weeks so I'm hoping to get my mental focus in order by then.
Did you experience any dehydration at all? I took the first one around 2 pm today - I took 2 diphenhydromine (OTC sleeping aids) last nite & slept great, and also slept in. I got up & at 'em, went out for lunch, ran some errands & drove home in a rain storm and then I just started getting flaky.
I took the 1 pill at 2-ish pm & it got me going again, but I started getting flaky again around 6 pm. The question of nap or gym came up. Nap won, except I got a phone call & ended up just staring at the tv. I'm getting ready to drop off here really soon, which is good (insomnia overcome! i hope). I did notice that my throat is really dry - not raspy but it feels very dry. I had a couple diet cokes today, but lots of water. Very strange.
Tomorrow I'll be hitting the N-nex earier in the day to see if I can stop being flaky. I have a VERY big drive ahead of me in 2 weeks so I'm hoping to get my mental focus in order by then.
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After a month of supplementing with Neurogenex, these are my observations:
1. It definitely works. My memory, verbal skills, ability to concentrate, sense of humor, and even my reflexes (particularly with my left hand, which is normally clumsy) are better. Several people who don't know I'm taking it have commented on these improvements.
2. It works best on an empty stomach.
3. More does not work better for me, more makes me nauseous and restless. It's nice to be able to use a supplement sparingly (2 caps a day, which is 2/3 the recommended dose) and still get a quantifiable boost.
4. It makes food less interesting to me, quite a feat.
5. Taking choline, inositol, siberian ginseng, and a B spectrum vitamin with Neurogenex add to the nootropic effect. I would still like to try stacking it with other nootropics, just for the experience, namely adrafinil, acetyl-l-carnitine, and vinpocetine. But if it ain't broke...
6. It seems to potentiate the effects of caffiene, and vice versa. I haven't tried it with other stimulants.
7. The initial insomnia could have been caused by any number of environmental or physiological things, and went away on its own. I'm getting a full night's sleep and feeling wonderful when I wake up. I recall Fonz saying on the Anabolic forum that he was significantly less groggy when he first woke up - I've noticed that too. I used to need to get some food and/or caffiene in me before I was any good in the morning, now I'm pretty lucid upon awakening.
All around very pleased with my purchase, and will be re-ordering when my bottle runs out.
Sassy - no dehydration. I drink about a gallon and a half of water every day, though. How did your drive go?
1. It definitely works. My memory, verbal skills, ability to concentrate, sense of humor, and even my reflexes (particularly with my left hand, which is normally clumsy) are better. Several people who don't know I'm taking it have commented on these improvements.
2. It works best on an empty stomach.
3. More does not work better for me, more makes me nauseous and restless. It's nice to be able to use a supplement sparingly (2 caps a day, which is 2/3 the recommended dose) and still get a quantifiable boost.
4. It makes food less interesting to me, quite a feat.
5. Taking choline, inositol, siberian ginseng, and a B spectrum vitamin with Neurogenex add to the nootropic effect. I would still like to try stacking it with other nootropics, just for the experience, namely adrafinil, acetyl-l-carnitine, and vinpocetine. But if it ain't broke...
6. It seems to potentiate the effects of caffiene, and vice versa. I haven't tried it with other stimulants.
7. The initial insomnia could have been caused by any number of environmental or physiological things, and went away on its own. I'm getting a full night's sleep and feeling wonderful when I wake up. I recall Fonz saying on the Anabolic forum that he was significantly less groggy when he first woke up - I've noticed that too. I used to need to get some food and/or caffiene in me before I was any good in the morning, now I'm pretty lucid upon awakening.
All around very pleased with my purchase, and will be re-ordering when my bottle runs out.
Sassy - no dehydration. I drink about a gallon and a half of water every day, though. How did your drive go?
