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progymrat
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i agree !!
Signs of failed Liver? URGENT!
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Bottom line is this guy needs to hit the DOC ASAP!!!!!! no more arguing over who is right and wrong, JUST GO TO THE DOCTOR!!!!!!
agreed. All these internet MD's giving out worthless diagnoses won't help him one bit. He needs to go to his (REAL) doctor and get some blood work done.
Meantime, it would be a good idea for him to stop drinking and taking dbol. I also think we're not hearing all of the story. A few beers and 25mg dbol/day does not induce liver failure unless there was already an existing problem. Either he was taking other drugs/more alchol in an abusive pattern over a period of time, or he has a genetically compromised liver (or perhaps both).
babushka
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Tell him to drop dball immidiately and go to the doctor.
Friend of mine had a similar cycle( test e500 mg deca 400mg dball 50mg),same sympthoms but he didn't stop when everyone told him to and a week later his eyeballs and skin turned yellow.He has to go to ER and spend about 5 weeks in hospital detoxing.
His AST level was 800 and ALT 1400 ( 5-40 is normal),bilirubin and holesterol sky high as well.
As far as I know his liver was weak before the cycle and he just didn't gave a shit about it.
It was about 6 months ago now he is ok,he is done with AAS but still drinking heavy from time to time.
So it is all reversable but he needs medical attention.
Friend of mine had a similar cycle( test e500 mg deca 400mg dball 50mg),same sympthoms but he didn't stop when everyone told him to and a week later his eyeballs and skin turned yellow.He has to go to ER and spend about 5 weeks in hospital detoxing.
His AST level was 800 and ALT 1400 ( 5-40 is normal),bilirubin and holesterol sky high as well.
As far as I know his liver was weak before the cycle and he just didn't gave a shit about it.
It was about 6 months ago now he is ok,he is done with AAS but still drinking heavy from time to time.
So it is all reversable but he needs medical attention.
so he's been doing 25mg of dbol a day for 4 weeks?
lol
even if he does drink here and there...i HIGHLY doubt his liver is failing....but who knows, tell him to get blood work done to check his liver values
it's ok to take orals at moderate dosages for up to 6-8 weeks fine without any liver support...
just my opinion tho.
lol
even if he does drink here and there...i HIGHLY doubt his liver is failing....but who knows, tell him to get blood work done to check his liver values
it's ok to take orals at moderate dosages for up to 6-8 weeks fine without any liver support...
just my opinion tho.
CORRUPT COP
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God bless him I really hope that he will be fine.
crulexis
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Thanks for all the info guys, it's been real helpful
I'm just the messenger, Told him he HAS to go to a doc, and that he should get blood work done... Hopefully he listens
He already stopped drinking as soon as I told him how stupid he is, and he started drinking more water ( something he didn't do before) ... and yea I think the "few beers" might have been an understatement considering everything...
Djboots, are Cranberry extract pills a viable option rather than drinking the juice itself? And any dosing protocols he should follow?
I'm just the messenger, Told him he HAS to go to a doc, and that he should get blood work done... Hopefully he listens
He already stopped drinking as soon as I told him how stupid he is, and he started drinking more water ( something he didn't do before) ... and yea I think the "few beers" might have been an understatement considering everything...
Djboots, are Cranberry extract pills a viable option rather than drinking the juice itself? And any dosing protocols he should follow?
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