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"Pressing Advice From Dr. Ken Leistner"

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"Pressing Advice From Dr. Ken Leistner"

Until the early 1970’s, if you lifted weights and looked as if you lifted weights, strangers would most often ask the question, “ How much can you press?” As one of the three contested Olympic lifts and the one exercise that was done by every bodybuilder, athlete and casual trainee, the press, or as it is referred to today, much to my chagrin, the “overhead” press was considered to be the standard of strength. Prior to its termination from Olympic lifting competition in 1972, the popularity of the bench press and the sport of powerlifting had already reduced the use of this very productive movement. By the mid-seventies, “How much can you bench press?” became the measuring stick of one’s power. My views coincide with many others, primarily “old timers”, strength coaches, and Olympic lifters. The press is a “better” exercise than the bench press; the range of motion is greater, there is greater work for a larger number of muscles with a concomitant increase in the level of intensity, and one has to exert more energy balancing oneself and the barbell during its execution. I cast no aspersions on those that specialize in the bench press or enjoy doing it, as I respect strength in all of its various forms. However, the press has become a forgotten and underrated exercise, even among strength athletes.

In my opinion, there are but a few effective movements one can do to increase their pressing ability and only a few are needed. One must press of course, but the prudent inclusion of the push press, dumbbell press, and sixty to seventy degree incline press are valuable assistance movements. For those who like to train two times per week, the following can be done as the “pressing part” of the workout:

Day One
(Barbell) Press^
A pulling movement of choice
70 Degree Incline Press

Day Two
Push Press
A pulling movement of choice
Dumbbell Press*

^ Alternate with Push Press every other week
* Both arms press simultaneously, and with palms facing each other.

I am a “freak” for training equipment and believe that one will do best if they are excited by the “stuff” they lift with. Use a flexible Olympic bar for all overhead movements. You will notice a difference and receive maximum enjoyment from your training. I switch between the Leoko Olympic Bar with Sensitive Rotation and Bob Karhan’s LA Super Olympic Bar. Many Olympic lifters used to utilize the steep inclined press and Bill Starr was the one who actually showed me this exercise in the York Gym on Ridge Avenue in 1968. This will allow one to press heavy and hard, yet “save” the low back from the stress that overhead work can place upon it. A sturdy and safe adjustable incline bench is a must. We have one made by Mike Adolfson, at Reflex Fitness, that is fully adjustable for angle and bomb proof. I use dumbbells that make the pressing movement (and all others) quite difficult. These are handmade from a solid block of iron with inch and one half diameter handles that are not exactly round, but “grooved”. There is a balance issue involved and it makes the sixty pounders feel like nineties! That they are longer than a standard dumbbell just adds to the pleasure of completing a successful set. Atomic Athletic’s own blacksmith provided these and though it is a special order item, it’s the one thing in my garage that I am emotionally attached to and would not give up.

Stress overhead work for overall body power. I believe with the inclusion of skill work in the bench press and after a period of press specialization, the typical trainee will find that their benching strength has increased significantly. To be a “strong person” one has to be able to put weights up overhead, pull well off of the floor, and squat. Start giving preference to the press today and get the first of these three covered!
 
yeah overhead rocks.

i realize how much i have been neglecting it...... i was choosing weights the other day for my 30rep sets...... i happened to notice that the bench was 225lbs........ but the barbell curls were 100 and the military press was 115........ and then i felt really bad.

But im back to working on them now.

X
 
Exodus said:
yeah overhead rocks.

i realize how much i have been neglecting it...... i was choosing weights the other day for my 30rep sets...... i happened to notice that the bench was 225lbs........ but the barbell curls were 100 and the military press was 115........ and then i felt really bad.

But im back to working on them now.

X

I am addicted to overhead presses. I like having big shoulders...big and strong shoulders.

There is something about bringing something from the floor and pressing it over your head...

B True
 
Exodus said:
yeah overhead rocks.

i realize how much i have been neglecting it...... i was choosing weights the other day for my 30rep sets...... i happened to notice that the bench was 225lbs........ but the barbell curls were 100 and the military press was 115........ and then i felt really bad.

But im back to working on them now.

X

Exodus, you bench 225 30 times? and curl 100 30 times?
 
i was wondering about that , too, but i think he means he benched 225 for a total of 30 reps in his workout, not all in one set, so like 3 sets of 10 or 5 sets of 6.
 
b fold-If I remember correctly, you put together a Westside-based routine but do overhead presses instead of benching, right?If so, could you list your ME and DE upper body days?
 
ballast said:
b fold-If I remember correctly, you put together a Westside-based routine but do overhead presses instead of benching, right?If so, could you list your ME and DE upper body days?

I sometimes do DE upper with flat pressing then some inclines (heavy) and others I will just do board presses. No matter how I do my DE upper day...I always use a close grip and include either an overhead and/or an incline movement.

I also always do an overhead movt on event training day which I consider to be my ME day.

B True
 
I have recently added standing overhead presses in my routine, and really like them. I start from the floor and power clean the weight up, and then start pressing. My strength has gone up dramatically since I started doing this exercise about 2 weeks ago.

You're right b-fold, it does feel good to lift something off the ground and press it over your head.
 
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