ketosis critique

[motorol@]

heres whats going on today:

6am- chicken breast
9am- protein shake
12pm- chicken breast
2pm- protein shake
5pm- chicken breast
6pm- gym
8pm- ribeye steak
protein shake
1 cup 2% milk

Heres what it boils down to cal/protein/fat/carbs: 2157/359/66/24

I know I need to throw in the oats in the morning. That will be in the plan tomorrow

 

[tdidd42]

how long will you do that for?

 

[GUARDIAN]

heres whats going on today:

6am- chicken breast
9am- protein shake
12pm- chicken breast
2pm- protein shake
5pm- chicken breast
6pm- gym
8pm- ribeye steak
protein shake
1 cup 2% milk

Heres what it boils down to cal/protein/fat/carbs: 2157/359/66/24

I know I need to throw in the oats in the morning. That will be in the plan tomorrow

too many shakes. limit it to pre & post and perhaps a casein b4 bed.

have oatmeal in the morning and make sure to have some pre & post workout carbs. the rest of the day u could do without. make sure u get lots of fiber and try to eat some veggies (this really wont impact your carbs).

 

[motorol@]

I was going to try this for a week or two. I'll throw in oatmeal, and raw veggies throughout the day. How do the overall numbers look? Not enough calories?

 

[GUARDIAN]

I was going to try this for a week or two. I'll throw in oatmeal, and raw veggies throughout the day. How do the overall numbers look? Not enough calories?

height, weight, bf%?

 

[motorol@]

6'7", 265lbs, 18%

 

[silverskyline]

6'7", 265lbs, 18%

WOW YEAH MORE KCALS BRO...prolly best from the carbs protein looks good but lacking the carbs for glycogen uptake and amino delivery.

Just my .02

8 knows best.

 

[tdidd42]

WOW YEAH MORE KCALS BRO...prolly best from the carbs protein looks good but lacking the carbs for glycogen uptake and amino delivery.

Just my .02

8 knows best.

agree 8 is the man on this stuff, but from what i have read here, and in the book read i wont mention again i promise! i just dont see why that diet is even neessary, i seems carb cycleing will achieve lower bf easier and not run the risks of eating away at muscle. 8? dont bash me too hard

 

[GUARDIAN]

cals are way too low for ya! u r a beast!!!

i am only 6'2" 220ish and i use in the neighborhood of 3000.

i say start with about 3500 and we can go up or down from there. add some all natural pb 2 your diet to help up the cals. also switch one of those chicken breasts to red meat. i would still shoot for 100-150 grams of carbs and adjust up or down from there.

 

[rdel85]

bro, if you want to go keto then I would make a commitment and do it. I don't think you need the oats in the morning if you goal is to due a true keto diet. Also you will need more fats to make up for the lack of carbs. If you can afford it i would switch some of the chicken breast to salmon. Or supplement wit fish & flax seed oil. Remember if when you go that low you need to count your carbs in everything from shakes, drinks, egg whites, etc...

Personally I never went keto as I would always have some spinach, brocolli, something like that with most of my meals.

Also getting a good glutamine and BCAA source will help keep some muscle on when you drop your cals that low.

 

[GUARDIAN]

r u running any gear during this diet or any "fat" burners?

 

[mrperfect]

My last diet I did about 2700-2800 cals with about 70g/day of carbs, high fat and protein. Then I took in 250 carbs every 4th day and dropped my fat. Worked ok, got ripped but lost too much muscle. This time I am doing 120 fat, 130 carbs, 350 protein, 2700-2800cals with just yams and oatmeal, detrose after I workout. It is working so much better. I started off much slower and almost got frustrated but now I am loosing about 3 pounds a week and staying really full compaired to last time. I will throw in some low carb and high carbs days in about 4 weeks just to shock my body and keep it burning fat.

 

[mrperfect]

Also, way too many shakes bro, you are going to be hungry so eat instead. I only do whey with my oatmeal before I workout and in a shake after. I would not go over 2 shakes a day.

 

[motorol@]

r u running any gear during this diet or any "fat" burners?

great help guys. So far it is all natty the past 7/8 months, but I have 20ml of 250 test cyp, 40 or 50 winnie tabs, liquid clen, and arimidex on hand so I'll probably throw something together when I shed some bf%. Hopefully before summer comes around! I might run a little clen now and switch between ECA weekly. It will be cycle #2 for me

 

[silverskyline]

great help guys. So far it is all natty the past 7/8 months, but I have 20ml of 250 test testosterone cypionate, 40 or 50 winnie tabs, liquid Clenbuterol, and arimidex on hand so I'll probably throw something together when I shed some bf%. Hopefully before summer comes around! I might run a little Clenbuterol now and switch between eca - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin weekly. It will be cycle #2 for me

Sounds good bro nows the time good luck!

oh p.s. for your post carb with whey might want to look into Waxy Maize, I havnt tried it yet it's on order but I hear it's much better.