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Posted re Charles Poliquin Senimar and David Boston's 40 yar dash etc
Re Snatch deadlift - I told ya so!! Reminds me to sarting doing em
Todd Wilson
8/13/2002 : 2:24:35 PM
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Hi, AJ...it went very Well! Very interesting and informative.
I'll just briefly comment on some things mentioned above and throw out some things of interest and then just let me know any specific questions you have.
40 times...
Last season Boston ran a 4.27 electronically timed.
This year at a bodyweight of 248 he ran a 4.17! Charles said he got calls from the Cardinals coaching staff however, and that they were giving him grief because of Boston's weight.
Clemson mentioned Poliquin's emphasis on structural balance. Charles is huge one this. He spent the first 8 weeks of Davids training improving his lower back and hamstring strength. Strengthening his VMO with the use of split squats on a wobble board (more about that in a second). And improving Boston's upper back (read CHINS!). About the split squats on the wobble board... he was very critical of all of the balance training nonsense and said he did use the wobble board and sit fit, but it wasn't for balance, it was because it taught the athlete how to recruit the VMO.
He was big on the Snatch Grip Dead Lift from the podium (which made me feel good because it's one of my favorite movements) and variatoins there of. He will use it with chains, variations in starting height, and then move into various pulls, etc. He would also use one form each of split squats and step ups in David's program. The step ups were most often Peterson step ups in order to bring about development in the VMO.
Last year Boston benched 425 at camp, this year he can inclined that weight.
He emphasized the acceleration of the bar in concentric portion of the lift. Especially in upper body lifts such as the incline bench. He discussed several methods to achieve this using chains, eccentric hooks, and various wave loading parameters.
Also, Clemson mentioned Charles and "bodybuilding methods." While he has been criticised for this. I have to disagree with those who suggest he uses "bodybuilding methods." He rarely goes above 6 reps in the primary exercises used on a given training day. He did say that he preferred heavy/lean athletes.
Also, in their first year (i.e., summer, off-season or however long they have to train with him) of training hockey and Baseball players gain about 18 pounds of lean mass and football players gain about 25 pounds.
He said every American athlete that comes into his center has a weak lower back, hamstrings, VMO, and Lats.
He said, like most of his athletes Boston used a 3 out of 5 day frequency, but that he trained twice a day. The evening workout usually consisted of farmers walk, super yoke, log press, etc. Strongman type training.
He also emphasized that he personally felt that one thing that perhaps helped Boston the most was his improved grip strength. He trains grip after every upper body workout. They do something for grip for a few sets.
Also, be on the look out for Thomas Jones who trained with Charles this summer. Charles said that he improved his clean pulls 100 lbs. in 4 workouts. That is partly due to neural processes of learning a new skill, but that's still impressive that an athlete can adapt like that.
Anyway...that's just some stuff off the top of my head that I thought I would throw out...any questions are most welcome.
From a personal standpoint I had a great time James Walker and his staff at Pro Speed in Herndon, VA did a great job as host and they have an impressive facility. Charles did an excellent job presenting his material and was very funny throughout the seminar. I had heard plenty of stories about him berating seminar attendies, and this and that, but we talked extensively and lunch and frankly, he's my kind a guy. Very nice and down to earth. One guy did leave pissed though. After showing how to assess a VMO deficiency the guy was pissed when Charles told him that his was weak. That coupled with the fact that he was there trying to hock his fitness equipment and Charles didn't say, "Hey everybody buy equipment from this guy." Personally I would have been an asshole to the guy. He acted like a jerk, but Charles was very professional.
He's also gotten into herbalism and Chinese medicine. He's basically been readind, researching etc. trying to find out as much about it as possible. He gave me some book title to read that eventually I would like to check out as it was really interesting, but it's very empirical right now.
ANother thing I thought was interesting is he said that he goes to seminars all the time and highly recommends it as a way of learning. Lately he's been going to seminars on topics relating to Testosterone/Cortisol ratio. He's big into manipulating that ratio. And essentially he's trying to develop a supplement(s) that can help the athlete manage cortisol more efficiently.
Anyway, it was a great expierience, I would recommend it to anyone and if your in the Washington D.C. area and need a great place to train, call Pro Speed.
P.S. Charles has forearms the size of my calves!
Todd Wilson
Website Member
Posts : 7
8/13/2002 : 2:30:05 PM
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Oh yeah...Sled work!
Charles was big on this. He uses all manners of drags, pull throughs, etc.
However, he said never run with a sled! Only drag it. I agree and would be interested on others and Charlie's ideas on this, but in my opinion I dislike all forms of resisted running, towing, etc. be it with a sled, parachute, bungee cord, tubing, down hill running, weight vest or whatever. Especially for a sprinter (although I have no expierience coaching sprinters in anyway) but even in sports such as football and basketball, I feel potential disadvatages far outweigh possible advantages.
Re Snatch deadlift - I told ya so!! Reminds me to sarting doing em
Todd Wilson
8/13/2002 : 2:24:35 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi, AJ...it went very Well! Very interesting and informative.
I'll just briefly comment on some things mentioned above and throw out some things of interest and then just let me know any specific questions you have.
40 times...
Last season Boston ran a 4.27 electronically timed.
This year at a bodyweight of 248 he ran a 4.17! Charles said he got calls from the Cardinals coaching staff however, and that they were giving him grief because of Boston's weight.
Clemson mentioned Poliquin's emphasis on structural balance. Charles is huge one this. He spent the first 8 weeks of Davids training improving his lower back and hamstring strength. Strengthening his VMO with the use of split squats on a wobble board (more about that in a second). And improving Boston's upper back (read CHINS!). About the split squats on the wobble board... he was very critical of all of the balance training nonsense and said he did use the wobble board and sit fit, but it wasn't for balance, it was because it taught the athlete how to recruit the VMO.
He was big on the Snatch Grip Dead Lift from the podium (which made me feel good because it's one of my favorite movements) and variatoins there of. He will use it with chains, variations in starting height, and then move into various pulls, etc. He would also use one form each of split squats and step ups in David's program. The step ups were most often Peterson step ups in order to bring about development in the VMO.
Last year Boston benched 425 at camp, this year he can inclined that weight.
He emphasized the acceleration of the bar in concentric portion of the lift. Especially in upper body lifts such as the incline bench. He discussed several methods to achieve this using chains, eccentric hooks, and various wave loading parameters.
Also, Clemson mentioned Charles and "bodybuilding methods." While he has been criticised for this. I have to disagree with those who suggest he uses "bodybuilding methods." He rarely goes above 6 reps in the primary exercises used on a given training day. He did say that he preferred heavy/lean athletes.
Also, in their first year (i.e., summer, off-season or however long they have to train with him) of training hockey and Baseball players gain about 18 pounds of lean mass and football players gain about 25 pounds.
He said every American athlete that comes into his center has a weak lower back, hamstrings, VMO, and Lats.
He said, like most of his athletes Boston used a 3 out of 5 day frequency, but that he trained twice a day. The evening workout usually consisted of farmers walk, super yoke, log press, etc. Strongman type training.
He also emphasized that he personally felt that one thing that perhaps helped Boston the most was his improved grip strength. He trains grip after every upper body workout. They do something for grip for a few sets.
Also, be on the look out for Thomas Jones who trained with Charles this summer. Charles said that he improved his clean pulls 100 lbs. in 4 workouts. That is partly due to neural processes of learning a new skill, but that's still impressive that an athlete can adapt like that.
Anyway...that's just some stuff off the top of my head that I thought I would throw out...any questions are most welcome.
From a personal standpoint I had a great time James Walker and his staff at Pro Speed in Herndon, VA did a great job as host and they have an impressive facility. Charles did an excellent job presenting his material and was very funny throughout the seminar. I had heard plenty of stories about him berating seminar attendies, and this and that, but we talked extensively and lunch and frankly, he's my kind a guy. Very nice and down to earth. One guy did leave pissed though. After showing how to assess a VMO deficiency the guy was pissed when Charles told him that his was weak. That coupled with the fact that he was there trying to hock his fitness equipment and Charles didn't say, "Hey everybody buy equipment from this guy." Personally I would have been an asshole to the guy. He acted like a jerk, but Charles was very professional.
He's also gotten into herbalism and Chinese medicine. He's basically been readind, researching etc. trying to find out as much about it as possible. He gave me some book title to read that eventually I would like to check out as it was really interesting, but it's very empirical right now.
ANother thing I thought was interesting is he said that he goes to seminars all the time and highly recommends it as a way of learning. Lately he's been going to seminars on topics relating to Testosterone/Cortisol ratio. He's big into manipulating that ratio. And essentially he's trying to develop a supplement(s) that can help the athlete manage cortisol more efficiently.
Anyway, it was a great expierience, I would recommend it to anyone and if your in the Washington D.C. area and need a great place to train, call Pro Speed.
P.S. Charles has forearms the size of my calves!
Todd Wilson
Website Member
Posts : 7
8/13/2002 : 2:30:05 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh yeah...Sled work!
Charles was big on this. He uses all manners of drags, pull throughs, etc.
However, he said never run with a sled! Only drag it. I agree and would be interested on others and Charlie's ideas on this, but in my opinion I dislike all forms of resisted running, towing, etc. be it with a sled, parachute, bungee cord, tubing, down hill running, weight vest or whatever. Especially for a sprinter (although I have no expierience coaching sprinters in anyway) but even in sports such as football and basketball, I feel potential disadvatages far outweigh possible advantages.
