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If you have only 1 kidney should you avoid supplements and steriods?

Since all of you want to know how I "found out". Here is the story. I grew up not knowing about this. I did a total of 3 cycles not very heavy ones before I found out about my situation. Cycle one was test 500mg/wk and dbol for 8 weeks. About 1 year later I did a deca only cycle for 10 weeks, then about 8 months later I did a tren only cycle that was 6 weeks long. I dont remember the exact amounts that I did for deca and tren, but I do have them written down, but they are not with me right now.

Anyway, about 1 year after my last cycle I started to notice when I would urinate I felt something at the tip of my penis, at one time it blocked the stream for a quick moment, then not long after that I pissed out what I thought was a kidney stone......painful as hell. Called the doc, told him what happened, he thought it was a stone too and told me to get an ultra sound to make sure there are no more remaining. Got a call a few hours after the ultrasound from my doc saying that there was a problem, I had one enlarged kidney and one VERY small. Went to a nephralogist, had some tests and he said I needed surgery that my one small kidney is not functioning and that my other kidney is enlarged due to a blocked uretor which was backing up my urine into my one good kidney. So I had the surgury and everything is fine with the one kidney. He said that my condition was congenital. I've been going back initially every 6 months to check on it, and now I have to go annually for a check up. We're starting to see a patern in my family of this. It was a very nervous time in my life what I went through.
So after that I have been eating well, not alot of protien, no supplements, but I feel like its close to impossible to put on muscle this way, however I will not do anything to harm my kidney. Doctors know about certain drugs to avoid and to avoid excessive protein, but dont know much about supplements. And Im sure he would say no to any form of steriod.
I knew it was a long shot to ask my initial question because most if not all steriods are broken down by the kidney, but I know there are some smart guys on here that might know of 1 or 2 things that can help.
 
seaking420 said:
Since all of you want to know how I "found out". Here is the story. I grew up not knowing about this. I did a total of 3 cycles not very heavy ones before I found out about my situation. Cycle one was test 500mg/wk and dbol for 8 weeks. About 1 year later I did a deca only cycle for 10 weeks, then about 8 months later I did a tren only cycle that was 6 weeks long. I dont remember the exact amounts that I did for deca and tren, but I do have them written down, but they are not with me right now.

Anyway, about 1 year after my last cycle I started to notice when I would urinate I felt something at the tip of my penis, at one time it blocked the stream for a quick moment, then not long after that I pissed out what I thought was a kidney stone......painful as hell. Called the doc, told him what happened, he thought it was a stone too and told me to get an ultra sound to make sure there are no more remaining. Got a call a few hours after the ultrasound from my doc saying that there was a problem, I had one enlarged kidney and one VERY small. Went to a nephralogist, had some tests and he said I needed surgery that my one small kidney is not functioning and that my other kidney is enlarged due to a blocked uretor which was backing up my urine into my one good kidney. So I had the surgury and everything is fine with the one kidney. He said that my condition was congenital. I've been going back initially every 6 months to check on it, and now I have to go annually for a check up. We're starting to see a patern in my family of this. It was a very nervous time in my life what I went through.
So after that I have been eating well, not alot of protien, no supplements, but I feel like its close to impossible to put on muscle this way, however I will not do anything to harm my kidney. Doctors know about certain drugs to avoid and to avoid excessive protein, but dont know much about supplements. And Im sure he would say no to any form of steriod.
I knew it was a long shot to ask my initial question because most if not all steriods are broken down by the kidney, but I know there are some smart guys on here that might know of 1 or 2 things that can help.


Sorry to hear about your situation. I wish you well
As far as AS, do some reasearch either on the internet or books (Anabolic 200-2006) which list all the steroids and their profiles (pros & cons)
That way if you decide to do a cycle you know which ones to stay away from

Good luck
 
seaking420 said:
Ill give you a little info, I've done 3 cycles in the past, then found out that I had only one kidney so I decided to just eat well and workout, no supplements or steriods. I also reduced the amount of protein that I was taken. Well its been a few years since all of this and I have been able to maintain my weight and muscle mass, but struggle to put much on. I was wondering if any of you know of anything that is not harmful to the kidney

i think mate this is a rethorical question :) ....off course you should stay away from steroids otherwise you risk dialysis.....
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There are two, equally effective, types of dialysis - haemodialysis and peritoneal dialysis.

Haemodialysis
In haemodialysis, your blood is circulated outside your body through a machine containing special filters, via a thin, flexible tube (a catheter) inserted into a vein. The filters remove the waste products from your blood. After passing through the dialysis machine, your blood returns to your body via a second catheter. In other words, you are connected to an 'artificial kidney'.
Before you can have haemodialysis, you will need a small surgical procedure to enlarge a blood vessel, usually in your arm. This is then used for inserting the catheters that connect to the dialysis machine.
The time needed for dialysis depends on how well your kidneys work, how much fluid weight you gain between dialysis treatments, how much waste you have in your body and your physical size. Haemodialysis is usually needed for 3-4 hours three times per week.
Haemodialysis is normally given in a special dialysis centre or in a dialysis unit at a hospital. However, for some people haemodialysis may be a treatment that can be performed at home. In general, those who are suitable for home haemodialysis are those who:
are able and willing to learn to carry out the procedure and to continue with the treatment, have remained in a stable condition while on dialysis, don't have other diseases that would make it too difficult or unsafe to carry out haemodialysis at home, have blood vessels that are suitable for inserting the catheters that carry the blood to and from the dialysis machine, if a carer is needed, have a carer (or more than one carer) who has decided, after discussing all the issues, to help with the haemodialysis, have a home that already has enough space and facilities to set up and use the kidney machine, or whose home could be adapted to provide the space and facilities needed. Patients and their carers will be given training before they start to carry out haemodialysis at home.
The National Institute for Clinical Excellence (NICE) has recommended that all those who are suitable for home haemodialysis should be offered the choice of having haemodialysis in the home or in hospital.
Peritoneal dialysis
Your abdomen is the area between your chest and hips, which contains your stomach, small intestine, large intestine, liver, gallbladder, pancreas and spleen. Peritoneal dialysis relies on the natural filtering ability of the internal lining of your abdomen (the peritoneum). In peritoneal dialysis the lining of the abdomen acts to filter waste products from the blood.
Before you can have peritoneal dialysis, you will need a small surgical procedure to insert a catheter into your abdomen. This is kept closed off except when fluid is being put in, or taken out of, the abdomen.
During treatment, a bag of special fluid called dialysate is inserted into your abdomen through the catheter. The fluid is left in place for six to 24 hours, depending on the type of peritoneal dialysis used. During this time toxins, waste products and excess water all move from your bloodstream into the dialysate, which is then drained out of your abdomen through the catheter. Another bag of fluid is then inserted. The number of bags of dialysate used will depend on the type of peritoneal dialysis used, how well your kidneys work, the severity of your kidney problems, and your size and age.
There are two main types of peritoneal dialysis:
continuous ambulatory peritoneal dialysis (CAPD). This is a continuous treatment that can be performed by you or a relative and needs no machine. The dialysate is left in your abdomen for four to eight hours and then immediately replaced with fresh solution. This is done four to five times a day, every day. continuous cyclic peritoneal dialysis (CCPD). This is an overnight treatment that uses a machine to do the dialysis fluid exchanges while you are asleep. CCPD takes 10-12 hours per session and most people need to be attached to the machine every night. After spending the night attached to the machine, most people keep fluid inside their abdomen during the day. Some will need to do one exchange during the day, or in the late afternoon. Peritoneal dialysis can be thought of as a more gentle method of dialysis than haemodialysis. It particularly suits some people, such as babies and children and older people for whom haemodialysis may be too exhausting. Peritoneal dialysis can also be done outside of a clinical setting, including at work or in a car, which makes things like regular attendance at school or work easier.
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i would not risk, clean diet, not too much protein and sound training program i would not also use vanadium, creatine
 
I would suggest that you simply quit ALL STEROIDS THAT YOU ARE TAKING, and possibly even quit weight lifting.

Your protein intake has to be low and if its low you won't gain anything regardless of what you take. So start picking a new hobby in life, business? something other than lifting.

Be like lance armstrong, go do some cardio and minor lifting, not massive that would require lots of protein

DEFINATELY QUIT THE STEROIDS, FOR GOD SAKE. HALF THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD SHOULDN'T EVEN BE TAKING STEROIDS CUZ THEY ALL ABUSE IT.
 
seaking420 said:
Since all of you want to know how I "found out". Here is the story. I grew up not knowing about this. I did a total of 3 cycles not very heavy ones before I found out about my situation. Cycle one was test 500mg/wk and dbol for 8 weeks. About 1 year later I did a deca only cycle for 10 weeks, then about 8 months later I did a tren only cycle that was 6 weeks long. I dont remember the exact amounts that I did for deca and tren, but I do have them written down, but they are not with me right now.

Anyway, about 1 year after my last cycle I started to notice when I would urinate I felt something at the tip of my penis, at one time it blocked the stream for a quick moment, then not long after that I pissed out what I thought was a kidney stone......painful as hell. Called the doc, told him what happened, he thought it was a stone too and told me to get an ultra sound to make sure there are no more remaining. Got a call a few hours after the ultrasound from my doc saying that there was a problem, I had one enlarged kidney and one VERY small. Went to a nephralogist, had some tests and he said I needed surgery that my one small kidney is not functioning and that my other kidney is enlarged due to a blocked uretor which was backing up my urine into my one good kidney. So I had the surgury and everything is fine with the one kidney. He said that my condition was congenital. I've been going back initially every 6 months to check on it, and now I have to go annually for a check up. We're starting to see a patern in my family of this. It was a very nervous time in my life what I went through.
So after that I have been eating well, not alot of protien, no supplements, but I feel like its close to impossible to put on muscle this way, however I will not do anything to harm my kidney. Doctors know about certain drugs to avoid and to avoid excessive protein, but dont know much about supplements. And Im sure he would say no to any form of steriod.
I knew it was a long shot to ask my initial question because most if not all steriods are broken down by the kidney, but I know there are some smart guys on here that might know of 1 or 2 things that can help.

Bro, the kidney that had the urethreo pelvic juction obstruction may have been damaged by the blockage that occured, it depends on how long and how severly it was blocked. The procedure that is usually done (pyloplasy) will keep from having any further damage, but you should ask the doc about possible damage already done. I would be very careful considering the other kidney is not functioning properly. Keep up your water intake and stay natty.
 
You could always try asking your doctor you know
Do you really think a nerphralogist is going to recommend steriod use. come on. Plus I wasnt just talking about steriods. I also said supplements.

Bro, the kidney that had the urethreo pelvic juction obstruction may have been damaged by the blockage that occured, it depends on how long and how severly it was blocked. The procedure that is usually done (pyloplasy) will keep from having any further damage, but you should ask the doc about possible damage already done. I would be very careful considering the other kidney is not functioning properly. Keep up your water intake and stay natty

Well you seem like your educated in this, how did you know that was my condition - UPJ obstruction? From the tests that I had done, the kidney that had the UPJ obstruction is functioning fine, I do a lasix test once a year that shows the time that it takes for my kidney to release the waste build up. My other kidney(very small one), they think I was born like that. I do try to drink plenty of water daily, some days are less than others. My nephralogist said to just limit my protein intake and dont drink too much, however I still can have a glass of wine or beer every now and then. I dont drink much, so I resort to smoking the ganja instead. I think your right though, just to stay natural and healthy I definitely dont want dialysis.
 
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