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Hey Bodybyfinaplex....need Help!

getbigagain

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I have been doing the CKD bulk thing for 6 weeks. I am a little bigger. I am up to 3600 calories through the week. I carb up for 7 hours or so on Friday night and do arms,back and chest Satruday morning. ALl day Saturday I am back to the CKD then I have another carb load for 7 hours or so Saturday night. I do legs and shoulders on Sunday morning. I feel I need a different workout. I do a 45 minute workout Tuesday and Wednsday just like the above by I do a pyramid scheme with lighter weights and the last set is heavier and close to my weekend workout weight. Today is Monday and my arms are kinda sore but I feel like I need to sapce things out more. I heard that you lift 6 times a week. What do you do. I am clean and natural in training. My buddy told me to do the original CKD bulk where I have 1000 calories of carbs wed. followed by a workout then Friday night- Sunday morning carb up and have another workout and have a depletion workout Friday before carb up. Do you have any suggestions on any of this. I only ask you becasue you seem to be the CKD BULK GOD on this board.I thought about having about 200 carbs, a mix of hi gi and low gi, i.e. oats and syrup pr a pancake with syrup. Do that then do my all my PULL workout Friday.After that start my carb up all night until about midnight. Then have my leg workout Saturday moirning then back to the CKD plan. THen start the Saturday night carb up for 7 hours. Then do all my PUSH workout Sunday morning. Then on Wednsday or so do a toal body with 1 set of each of about 20 exercises with enough weight to get 12-14 reps. ANy suggestions. later....Michael
 
Do only one carb up each week. By keeping carbs low for several days you get a more pronounced supercomensation effect from the carb load. If you start loading on Friday, just keep eating carbs until you begin to feel bloated, you want to eat them until you glycogen stores are as saturated as possible, then cut them out again. Do NOT split your carb loading up or stop loading before you eat enough carbs to get the supercomensation effect from loading after depleting.

Option 2: You can also go 3 days without carbs then doing a loading period every 4 days, but only do this if you can get enough carbs to completely fill your glycogen stores to capacity in less than one day, and preferably in an 8 hour period (for me this is about 1500 grams of carbs), and make certain that on day 3, before the carb up, you drop your calories a bit, in order to deplete your glycogen stores, and to elevate the levels of anabolic hormones in your bloodstream. I've done this with a great deal of sucsess, but do not like trying to pack in that many carbs in so short a period of time every 4 days. I recomend that you do your most brutal workout on day 4, in the morning, just before you start carb loading.

Break down your workout a bit better for me, day by day. I'm not certain I understand your timing or exactally what you are doing in terms of a workout.
 
Thanks for the reply. I have only fat and protien with a trace of carbs Sunday through Thursday. On Friday from the time I get up I space meals at around 3 hours and cut the calories a bit. I try to only get the fat from "good fat" that day. My last meal is at 2:00 PM. I then do a session of HIIT cardio at 4 and wait until 5:00 PM or so and carb up with about 4-5 meals until around 11 or midnight. I get about 600 carbs that night. Usually my first three meals are hi gi and the last 2 are low. Then, Saturday morning I hit the bacon and beef thing again and do hard workout for arms,chest and back. I then have protien shake and another meal at 2 or so and do the same thing I did on Friday night except that I only have about 30 hi gi carbs and then straight to the oats,yams and potatoes. I get about 400-500 carbs that night. Then on Sunday morning I do the brutal leg and shoulder workout. That is it. Then on Tuesday I do my same arm,back and chest workout but do 3 pyrymid sets for each. It is still a 45 minute workout with 15 min. cardio after. Then Wednsday I do the same thing but for my legs and shoulders. I rest totally on Monday and Thursday. If I still feel water bloat by some chance I do about 15 min. HITT cardio in the morning on Thursday. The cut on calories and the cardio before carb up Friday really make my body take the carb in nicely. I feel that I might be doing to much to gain mass. I do feel bigger and a little fatter but overall I feel good. If I do the 24 or 36 hour carb load, how can I tell I am done carbing. I usually think if my face feels real bloated I stop. I am also taking around 1.5 grams of ala each night I carb up. around 300-500 mg before each meal. I am up to 3600 calories on the fat/protien days. What should my calories be on carb up day(s)? I feel that with the calories reduction and the cardio on friday, my calories are at about 1000 for the day pre carb up. I seem to have LOTS of enegy through the week, is it ok to have one of my heavy workouts through the week. I feel that putting myback,arms and chest in one day I might be overtraining. The reason I like the firday and saturday night carb up is I feel leass bloated and mentally it makes me feel that I am cheating, or carbing 2 days instead of 1. I am doing 6-9 sets for biceps,6-9 for triceps, 6-9 for chest, 6-9 for back, 5 for shoulders, and 7 for legs. Is that to much for mass? That does not count the Tuesday Wednsday lighter workouts.
 
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