HCG use on Cycle Controversy

[Texas Monster]

Read for optimum use shouldnt be used for more than 4 weeks in a row. So could you run mid cycle for 4 weeks to plump up then blast last two weeks before PCT?

Where did you read this?

 

[Zyglamail]

Ive always wondered where the whole desensitization shit came from so I spent hours searching the studies. All I could find is a couple references to high dose studies done over something like a 6 month period of time that caused desensitization. However, in this game everyone reads between the lines, often very inaccurately, and mis-regurgitates the inaccuracies they have already heard and a new myth is born.

I can tell you low dose (<500IU) of HCG a couple times a week will not cause desensitization.

What it will do....

cost money
keep balls plump
make post cycle recovery faster because they havent been shut down for weeks or months.

At the end of the day how you chose to use it is up to you and your wallet. If you have the money and want to expedite recovery then run it your whole cyckle at say 259IU 2x a week. If money is a concern and you dont mind raisins hanging between your legs dont start running it till the end of the cycle.

As for those who show desensitization after 4 weeks or on the low doses we are referring to, prove it. Show me the studies.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Basic battle plan -- if nuts shrink -- do a shot of HCG . But you shouldn't be on so long or use dosages so high that you need to do that for weeks on end. I prefer using HCG at the end of a cycle to give the PCT a kickstart. Remember, HCG DOES NOT cure anything or raise HPTA. It just gets the T production going for a few days.

 

[Goldenrod12]

Run 250 iu's twice a week

 

[stevesmi]

Basic battle plan -- if nuts shrink -- do a shot of HCG . But you shouldn't be on so long or use dosages so high that you need to do that for weeks on end. I prefer using HCG at the end of a cycle to give the PCT a kickstart. Remember, HCG DOES NOT cure anything or raise HPTA. It just gets the T production going for a few days.

thank you! and this is exactly how I run it and advise guys to run it.

hcgenerate during, hcg as a kickstart. then PCT. in that order.

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

Hcg 250ius - 2x/week n cycle up to pct . Ai up to pct. Serm based pct (clomid/nolva).
No hcg in pct. No ai in pct. No supplement replacing a more effective pharmaceutical compound.All anecdotal bs when there is proven published peer reviewed studies by the leading specialist in the world (Dr Michael Scally) that thats the most effective protocol to be found. All this i recover great blah blah blah. People recover great that never do pct ..till they dont. Why not do what is proven to be the most effective by real case studies and patients, by the brightest mind that can be found on this topic???

 

[Texas Monster]

Hcg 250ius - 2x/week n cycle up to pct . Ai up to pct. Serm based pct (clomid/nolva).
No hcg in pct. No ai in pct. No supplement replacing a more effective pharmaceutical compound.All anecdotal bs when there is proven published peer reviewed studies by the leading specialist in the world (Dr Michael Scally) that thats the most effective protocol to be found. All this i recover great blah blah blah. People recover great that never do pct ..till they dont. Why not do what is proven to be the most effective by real case studies and patients, by the brightest mind that can be found on this topic???

So how long is it ok to run hcg for on cycle?
Some say in 4 week increments then 4 weeks off. What does Dr Scally say about this?
Is it ok to run Hcg the whole cycle? Does this cause desensitization?

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

So how long is it ok to run hcg for on cycle?
Some say in 4 week increments then 4 weeks off. What does Dr Scally say about this?
Is it ok to run Hcg the whole cycle? Does this cause desensitization?

Not if you run it at total of 500iu's /week in 2 - 250iu shots it doesnt. I run it starting 2 weeks in to a long ester cycle up to pct.

 

[Texas Monster]

Not if you run it at total of 500iu's /week in 2 - 250iu shots it doesnt. I run it starting 2 weeks in to a long ester cycle up to pct.

How long you running your cycle for?

Then would it be ok to run a little bit higher dosage as a blast right before pct like 500ius a day?

So you would be on 500ius a week for the cycle then 15-21 days out from the start of your pct start doing 500ius a day or 1000ius eod for 10-15 days. Then waiting 5-6 days to let the hcg clear then start your pct?

Would there be anything wrong with that? It just seems like you would be getting the best of both pct protocols. Keep em working on cycle then start pumping em back up at the end of cycle.

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

How long you running your cycle for?

Then would it be ok to run a little bit higher dosage as a blast right before pct like 500ius a day?

So you would be on 500ius a week for the cycle then 15-21 days out from the start of your pct start doing 500ius a day or 1000ius eod for 10-15 days. Then waiting 5-6 days to let the hcg clear then start your pct?

Would there be anything wrong with that? It just seems like you would be getting the best of both pct protocols. Keep em working on cycle then start pumping em back up at the end of cycle.

Im sure you could try it that way but I look at it like this. If im artfically keeping them functioning then why do i have to over use at end of cycle? Its not like thats gonna carry over. Keep them working ......then hit with serms. Im sure there are several ways you could go. Ive run cycles anywhere from 6week blast cycle to 16 weeks. Check your pm.