HCG use on Cycle Controversy

[ImAbe]

Me personally I run it at the end of cycle going into pct. This is the way that works best for me. I dont get alot of atrophy on cycle. Even at this moment Im 12 weeks into my cycle and my nuts are still going strong and I havent used any hcg yet. I will start my hcg around week 20 when Im about 2 weeks left on cycle. Find what works for you and stick with it.

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Week 20, what ya running?

 

[Texas Monster]

I guess a better question would of been. Is there anything wrong with running HCG the entire cycle? Then running a hcg blast at the end?

 

[joeblow12345]

Week 20, what ya running?

I am running test, anadrol, tren, and deca.

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[ImAbe]

I am running test, anadrol, tren, and deca.

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Can I ask your ratios just out of curiosity, also have you found any issues with running the 2 19's together, tren/deca?

 

[dubbzero]

I guess a better question would of been. Is there anything wrong with running HCG the entire cycle? Then running a hcg blast at the end?

There is nothing wrong with running it the entire cycle. It's trial and error and works different for everyone. Try it out and see how it works for you you're gonna love HCG

 

[joeblow12345]

Can I ask your ratios just out of curiosity, also have you found any issues with running the 2 19's together, tren/deca?

Im not sure what you mean by ratios? Doses? Anyhow, you can most certainly run tren and deca together. However, some have issues with one or the other so its not always advised. I run the deca at a low dose 3-400 mgs. This helps tremendously with joints as tren tends to dry me out. It also adds some nice mass. When I run them together I cut them out one by one. This allows them to clear my system while the test is covering me. Test is always the last to go as its the easiest for me to recover from. This isnt something I reccommed a begginer try. I have experience with tren and deca and know how my body responds to them.

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[ImAbe]

Im not sure what you mean by ratios? Doses? Anyhow, you can most certainly run tren and deca together. However, some have issues with one or the other so its not always advised. I run the deca at a low dose 3-400 mgs. This helps tremendously with joints as tren tends to dry me out. It also adds some nice mass. When I run them together I cut them out one by one. This allows them to clear my system while the test is covering me. Test is always the last to go as its the easiest for me to recover from. This isnt something I reccommed a begginer try. I have experience with tren and deca and know how my body responds to them.

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Hey Joe, tried to pm you but your inbox is full, a lot of the mods have chewed a lot guys that wanted to run deca and tren, I'm currently on my 11th week of tren e/mast e/test e, 600mg per week plus 50mg test p ed, I have deca and wanted to add a while back, probably going to run 20 weeks, in your opinion, if I wanted to add the deca what precautions should I have and how would you incorporate it into my current cycle, any feedback is greatly appreciated no attempt at high jack here, sorry bros

 

[ImAbe]

So I been reading around and there seems to be very conflicting Ideas on HCG use during Cycle.

Some say to run 500iu a week during heavy cycles. Others say that running 500iu a week will prevent you from being able to run an hcg blast at the end.. Others say to run HCGenerate during then HCG right before PCT.

What is the reasoning behind this. Some studies show that small doses of hcg of 250 iu are not even near high enough to produce desensitization of LH receptors in the gonads. Tests have been done to show that even a male taking a shot of 6000 iu still did not produce LH desensitization.

And that is what we are trying to avoid correct? The desensitization of LH receptors in the Testes? So If small doses of 250 iu x 2 a week or spaced every 4 days apart wont desensitize LH receptors how come people have the notion to not run HCG on cycle or if you run it on cycle you will not be able to do a blast at the end of say 1000 iu ed or 2000 iu eod and have it not be effective to restore ITT levels even though at small doses as such ITT levels can still be sustained.

Just Wondering because I been doing my research going into my next cycle and focusing on the recovery portion this time.

This is an awesome question bro, you sure have done your research, I would have pinned hcg the whole time if I had it but now at 11 weeks with nut shrinkage just showing itself and my hcg coming tomorrow I'm kind of glad I didn't waste the money on 11 unnecessary weeks of hcg, def need it now though, my 7 year olds nuts are bigger than mine right now lol

 

[Texas Monster]

Hey Joe, tried to pm you but your inbox is full, a lot of the mods have chewed a lot guys that wanted to run deca and tren, I'm currently on my 11th week of tren e/mast e/test e, 600mg per week plus 50mg test p ed, I have deca and wanted to add a while back, probably going to run 20 weeks, in your opinion, if I wanted to add the deca what precautions should I have and how would you incorporate it into my current cycle, any feedback is greatly appreciated no attempt at high jack here, sorry bros

I would hold off on the deca for another cycle. For me it took deca 7 weeks before I felt the "kick" and pump. Since you are allready in week 11 it wouldnt be till week 18 till you felt the effects and if you took it to week 21 well then your pct would be starting around week 27. That would be a little bit too long imo.

And you can run 19 nors together but you better be ready for some serious shut down and also be running caber with it.

I have run them together and it was in the mid of my cycle. I then let them clear while I rode it out with just some test and var. The only thing I didnt like is that I could definately tell I was starting to lose the "big" look when I started to come off on just test and var. I agree that the key is to recover from that when you still are running test then when you come off test it is a little bit easier. It is like coming down the stepping stairs of awesomeness and not just jumping off the top floor. Idk if that made anysense but *!@#$ it

 

[joeblow12345]

Hey Joe, tried to pm you but your inbox is full, a lot of the mods have chewed a lot guys that wanted to run deca and tren, I'm currently on my 11th week of tren e/mast e/test e, 600mg per week plus 50mg test p ed, I have deca and wanted to add a while back, probably going to run 20 weeks, in your opinion, if I wanted to add the deca what precautions should I have and how would you incorporate it into my current cycle, any feedback is greatly appreciated no attempt at high jack here, sorry bros

I cleared my inbox.

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