ck2006 said:NOT!![]()
sowwy, I couldn't help it.Axually, I went back & looked again. Still see lats, & arms. Can I feel your bis? Still got it.
ck2006 said:NOT!![]()
sowwy, I couldn't help it.HiDnGoD said:sowwy, I couldn't help it.
Axually, I went back & looked again. Still see lats, & arms. Can I feel your bis? Still got it.

This is awesome ck! 11 pages! Over 1,000 posts, & I got 1001! Kewl!HiDnGoD said:sowwy, I couldn't help it.
Axually, I went back & looked again. Still see lats, & arms. Can I feel your bis? Still got it.
HiDnGoD said:This is awesome ck! 11 pages! Over 1,000 posts, & I got 1001! Kewl!

^^ Love the names lol fat pic really fat pic lolck2006 said:here we go, I fell off the chair getting these LOL (literally)
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remember I haven't exercised for about two months, this week is the first official week I plan on gettin it ALL in, and there is my excuse![]()

*Bunny* said:^^ Love the names lol fat pic really fat pic lol
CK Great job on posting them I thought I'd bump them over. You look great for not exercising for 2 months! Remember the next pics will always be better b/c you have to post them
Per your comment about your tummy, it's really amazing what one week of clean eating will do, then two weeks and so on. Even two days of not eating crap I wake up with abs.. sometimes lol
Great job, I wanna see the glutes![]()
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Everyone has his/her 'place' .. my calves are watery, even at low BF they are never cut up like they need to be! I get that tire around my belly after a cheat though, seriously looks like a tire... I am amazed at how tight your abs are able to get after having 3 kids.ck2006 said:Thanks you, yup cleaning eating day three and "By George" I do have some, LOL.
No pictures of this booty, not yet, besides it wouldn't fit into the picture LMAO.
Actually I do have to say this, the major FAT is in my belly (don't know why, but it is) my hiny isn't looking too bad, at least that is what my hubby says LMAO (but then I would like to see him say different LOL)
I am going to post more on monday again, I know it is only a week but, I can already feel a change soooo I would like to see if there is actually one or just wishful thinking LOL
*Bunny* said:Everyone has his/her 'place' .. my calves are watery, even at low BF they are never cut up like they need to be! I get that tire around my belly after a cheat though, seriously looks like a tire... I am amazed at how tight your abs are able to get after having 3 kids.![]()
What do you do for rear delts?ck2006 said:December 14th,
My mother and law took the girls for the night so I can exercise and go christmas shopping YAHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Shoulders & calves
10 min warmup - treadmill
3x8
military press 17lbs
incline front raise 10lbs
rear delt 10lbs - not sure if I was doing these right, I felt a pinch inbetween or a little above my shoulder blades on the right side
lateral raise 10lbs
2x50
standing on stairs calf raises
30 minutes -treadmill
-5 min warm up 4.5,4.8,5.0,5.2 each at a minute repeat 3x 1 minute at 4.0 then 4.5,4.8,5.0,5.2 each at minute then cool down
lower ab exercises -
3x8 - all I can say is OUCH! but I know I did them right cause my back didn't get sore duringlying leg raises
reverse crunch
ANOTHER KICK ASS WORKOUT
m1
tuna
apple
m2
tuna
apple
TO DO
- got all caught up on the business side so nothing there.
- go SHOPPING by myself and workout by myself
- clean the girls room by myself
- study by myself
- run around the house dancing by myself
- realize I miss my girls and go pick them up doing nothing by myself....not.... well probably after shopping LOL
HiDnGoD said:What do you do for rear delts?
I do bent over raises.
*Bunny* said:HECK YA GF!!!!!!!!!!!
Get out those yoga tapes!!! Do you have any pilates stuff? I have entire windsor set collecting dust I can try to burn them if you want, lemme know
xxoo
This may be better for you & your back to take out any potential swinging movement that can go along with standing bent over Rev DB Flyes... the sitting works well too.. try them both ways get a feel for what is good and what bothers yous and run with it... core tight, you are pulling with your rear delts, any shoulder neck tweakage or arm SWING then lower weight. You can always do eccentric holds with the light weights, 5 lbs even are tough for me with thoseck2006 said:I sit on my coffee table and bend in half so I am looking at the floor and raise my arms... if that makes any sense. Should I stand and do them?
I like doing the standing. I bend over, horizontal, at the waist, with my knees unlocked & my elbows slightly bent, then pull my arms back. I started doing them like this becasue my gut was never small enough to allow for the sitting version, LOL.ck2006 said:I sit on my coffee table and bend in half so I am looking at the floor and raise my arms... if that makes any sense. Should I stand and do them?
HiDnGoD said:I like doing the standing. I bend over, horizontal, at the waist, with my knees unlocked & my elbows slightly bent, then pull my arms back. I started doing them like this becasue my gut was never small enough to allow for the sitting version, LOL.
OK, I hear ya on that.ck2006 said:I don't like standing, with every exercise that requires me to bend over standing, I have to be so careful on how I arch my back. Kneeling on the bench to do triceps or bent overs is the same thing but I seem to have more control.
Bunny what are eccentric holds? cause I do think I have to switch to lower weights.
my calves are killing me like they did the very first time I posted on here LOL.
More shopping today, I love it!!! I love the malls at this time of the year.
"Sometimes I also like to go with a lighter weight & just lift & hold for a count of 1,2, or 3."ck2006 said:I don't like standing, with every exercise that requires me to bend over standing, I have to be so careful on how I arch my back. Kneeling on the bench to do triceps or bent overs is the same thing but I seem to have more control.
Bunny what are eccentric holds? cause I do think I have to switch to lower weights.
my calves are killing me like they did the very first time I posted on here LOL.
More shopping today, I love it!!! I love the malls at this time of the year.
*Bunny* said:"Sometimes I also like to go with a lighter weight & just lift & hold for a count of 1,2, or 3."
I guess I could also use the term static here... hold the weight at the top of the movement & slowly release without compromising form...

I think you are ok doing these seated, but like the others suggested I would just use lesser weight and have a slower more controlled movement or do the holds... I also always have to go with a lighter weight on these other wise my left shoulder starts acting up (lots of knots in there I think and they start grinding)ck2006 said:I sit on my coffee table and bend in half so I am looking at the floor and raise my arms... if that makes any sense. Should I stand and do them?
sbt2082 said:I think you are ok doing these seated, but like the others suggested I would just use lesser weight and have a slower more controlled movement or do the holds... I also always have to go with a lighter weight on these other wise my left shoulder starts acting up (lots of knots in there I think and they start grinding)
Ask her to join you 'cause you need help with motivation, LOL. Maybe it'll help her, too.ck2006 said:Yup, grinding doesn't sound good!
Finished my shopping, just two more gifts to buy tomorrow and go grocery shopping, then the fun begins, wrapping LOL.
My mom said to me today that I'd better start watching what I eat cause I am getting fat again.Not bitching, I told her I started doing cardio again, and I checked the scale today I am down 2 pounds from monday soo something is happening
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ck2006 said:I still have to buy some yoga tapes, Treil suggested some and I can't find any in the stores. Is pilates the same as yoga?
Only when you have time and if it works that would be AWESOME.![]()
I am also going to try buy some billy banks tapes and see if that will be better for the back. I tried step aerobics a while back and the whole coordination thing was just bad, and I don't think that would help my back either.
One day I will be back at the gym, but for now I am going to try my hardest to do this at home.![]()
HiDnGoD said:Ask her to join you 'cause you need help with motivation, LOL. Maybe it'll help her, too.
the-short-one said:I have a few taebo tapes - they are challenging. the boot camp dvd's are good - basic moves, lots of stretching before and after - and they are NOT easy.lolol
SO what did you buy meck2006 said:Yup, grinding doesn't sound good!
Finished my shopping, just two more gifts to buy tomorrow and go grocery shopping, then the fun begins, wrapping LOL.
My mom said to me today that I'd better start watching what I eat cause I am getting fat again.Not bitching, I told her I started doing cardio again, and I checked the scale today I am down 2 pounds from monday soo something is happening
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sbt2082 said:SO what did you buy me![]()
j/k
Congrats on the weight loss (as long as its not too much of that hard earned muscle)
Swwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetck2006 said:Thanks, I think it was belly fat, which is a good thing, the day after I took those pics, hmmmm, lets just say I got a little visitor, so hopefully more to come this week.
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The newer Turbo Jam dvds are great too. Not to mention, they are fun. Check out some exercise video sites and read the reviews they've got. I'm thinking of picking up Ab Jam off ebay because I don't work my core enough.the-short-one said:I have a few taebo tapes - they are challenging. the boot camp dvd's are good - basic moves, lots of stretching before and after - and they are NOT easy.lolol
Roonytunes said:The newer Turbo Jam dvds are great too. Not to mention, they are fun. Check out some exercise video sites and read the reviews they've got. I'm thinking of picking up Ab Jam off ebay because I don't work my core enough.
Have a great Sunday, CK!![]()
que_66 said:
Awesome! Scab!!!!ck2006 said:HELLOOOOO, I just got 93% on my quiz one YAHOOOOOO! now to get ready for the midterm![]()
We have a pot luck at work tomorrow. I'm doing $20.00 worth of ribs in a crock pot.ck2006 said:arrr, i sliced my thumb open peeling potatoes, then I sliced open my other thumb LOL. My daughter is the first aid queen, got the spray and gauge out bandaged me right up, I can hardly type LMAO.
cabbage rolls, perogies and bread here we come, but my house STINKS LOL
ck2006 said:arrr, i sliced my thumb open peeling potatoes, then I sliced open my other thumb LOL. My daughter is the first aid queen, got the spray and gauge out bandaged me right up, I can hardly type LMAO.
cabbage rolls, perogies and bread here we come, but my house STINKS LOL

HiDnGoD said:We have a pot luck at work tomorrow. I'm doing $20.00 worth of ribs in a crock pot.
Wifey's been baking. Ouor house smells good.
Waht's in the perogies?

jenscats5 said:Homemade pierogies?? Can I come over?? I know how to fry kruztiki (sp?)....
Sorry to hear about the thumbs.....ouch!![]()
x12Jamie Lynn said:I don't know what to say girl....I'm sorry![]()
x12

Will2BLean said:What a clusterfuck! When it rains it pours.I'm so sorry that shit keeps piling on. Once again, I am absolutely amazed at your positiveness. You are absolutely awesome, ck!
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Gymgurl said:((((HUGS))))) Hang in there momma.....
Keep er together girl. Hide in a closet for a while if oyu have to. I too am amazed at your positive attitude in the face of all this.ck2006 said:hanging, I can officially say, I don't ever want to be a nurse,any notion I ever had about being one, is officially GONE LMAO.
Hubby tried to plan a date for me last night, I told him we'd have to postpone it, due to all the baba's coming over, so we were going to try tonight, NOT lol.
I forgot too, it is my other son's christmas concert tomorrow and the community christmas celebration on thursday that I help organize, it is a real whosville. falalalalalalalalalala. hee hee


HiDnGoD said:Keep er together girl. Hide in a closet for a while if oyu have to. I too am amazed at your positive attitude in the face of all this.


treilin said:What are you going to do on your date?!? Catch up on sleep... Sit down... maybe talk? lol
What are you doing on the treadmill and with working out if you have a sore back silllllllllllllllly?!?! Don't ya think maybe you should get some restck2006 said:wrapping gift LOL.
december 20
This morning my back is still sore, so this is still on hold but maybe later on today.![]()
shoulders/calves
military press 3x12
incline front raise 3x12
lateral raise 3x12
db shrugs 3x12
calf raises on stairs 2x50
abs
bicycles
leg lifts
40 minutes on treadmill
Thats what it is here anyways... a week of rest sbt2082 said:What are you doing on the treadmill and with working out if you have a sore back silllllllllllllllly?!?! Don't ya think maybe you should get some restThats what it is here anyways... a week of rest
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This may be the better way to go, CK. I worry that you shouldn't be training too hard with your current back problems. The back is such an integral piece of the human body that it's just not worth messing up. The damage can stay on for life. Better to live life a little squishy than in complete discomfort...I'll get off my soapbox. Nothin' butck2006 said:I have got to lower my cals some more or something if this continues, cause my weight ain't dropping. and I am just getting squishy.

Roonytunes said:This may be the better way to go, CK. I worry that you shouldn't be training too hard with your current back problems. The back is such an integral piece of the human body that it's just not worth messing up. The damage can stay on for life. Better to live life a little squishy than in complete discomfort...I'll get off my soapbox. Nothin' but
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*Bunny* said:diet diet diet diet diet
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*Bunny* said:Well maybe start logging all your foods again to see exactly what youre eating & when? I know you are busy but I always go back to that when I want to fix something, start with diet. Even if you cant post it, do it for yourself.. have you been using fitday?
Maybe set up a menu for a week then stick to it all week and see what happens or doesnt happen?, even extend it to two weeks of same menu so you dont have to log everything daily, of course with a cheat meal and see if that helps...
I noticed you haven't posted a food log in the last couple of pages. What are you eating now? Maybe if you post some details with total macros, we can provide some suggestions. Also, with the holiday season, I'm not sure if you're factoring in cheats and how big they are. But I'm SURE you can do this via diet and less training if need be. It's just not worth getting hurt or injured over.ck2006 said:I have been using fitday, I usually end up with 1400-1600 calories.
But how many calories when lifting but with no cardio is what I am struggling with cause I am assuming something should of happened by now.



Roonytunes said:I noticed you haven't posted a food log in the last couple of pages. What are you eating now? Maybe if you post some details with total macros, we can provide some suggestions. Also, with the holiday season, I'm not sure if you're factoring in cheats and how big they are. But I'm SURE you can do this via diet and less training if need be. It's just not worth getting hurt or injured over.
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*Bunny* said:RT is on the same page
Is that consistant? what does the rice = about 50-60 g complex carbs a day only?
I actually thought your carb intake would have been a little higher (as far as complex carbs go) ... Im looking at your choices for carbs... the only complex source I saw was rice. Not really worried about cranberries, veggies & apples, I dont see any of those being an issue with storing fat for you.ck2006 said:everything is pretty much consistant, except the rice, I just throw that in once in a while, but it is a pain to cook LOL. Not understanding you about the carbs, should I have more?
*Bunny* said:I actually thought your carb intake would have been a little higher (as far as complex carbs go) ... Im looking at your choices for carbs... the only complex source I saw was rice. Not really worried about cranberries, veggies & apples, I dont see any of those being an issue with storing fat for you.
Need to think...
If carbs are not an issueck2006 said:jepordy. dododododododododo, I will a wait your response, cause this is why I can't understand why for the love of god, even though I haven't been doing a lot of cardio, and I do have my cheat meal once a week I ain't loosing a thing.
*Bunny* said:If carbs are not an issue
my next thoughts relate to
(1) caloric intake
(2) snacking & size of cheats

*Bunny* said:Well you are allowed to have cheat meals & treat yourself.
and NO i do not think going LOWER than 1300 is smart, I was actually thinking it was too low, even with no activity, but Im just going off what I know works for me. Are you around 150 eating 1300?
Nothing looks overly processed, and you are STILL doing SOME activity so I really am kinda baffled. If you are burning WAY more than you are consuming then there is the issue of your body not getting ENOUGH food and storing what you do eat as fat (etc).
When was the last time you had blood work?
When was the last time you changed you diet?
ck2006 said:I have been using fitday, I usually end up with 1400-1600 calories.
But how many calories when lifting but with no cardio is what I am struggling with cause I am assuming something should of happened by now.
The Shadow said:Get me up to speed please.
Bodyweight and %age calorie split
I am not a fan of manuipulating a diet AROUND cardio - should be the other way round

ck2006 said:sooo I stopped pounding the weights
The Shadow said:DING!!!!
DING!!!
DING!!!
...there is the reason.
ck2006 said:I am STILL lifting them, just not heavy LOL and I am going back and forth between supersetting and 3x8 when my back gets sore.
The Shadow said:Im just telling you......I bet if you got a bf test - you have lost lbm
Okck2006 said:No i know you are trying to help, I was just trying to clarify so you could help more LOL.
I know I have lost LBM, it completely turning into FAT lol. My kids are even commenting on how I am losing my muscle.
I can't get in till after christmas to get it tested again.
The Shadow said:Ok
Muscle burns calories alone
Muscle mass is proportional to level of fat burning
LBM drops - fat loss slows and could possibly turn to fat gain.
LBM and fat arent interchangble..t just seems that way.
Hit the weights again as before for the fat loss to resume.
you girl, but lemme ask you to clarify here ..."know I have lost LBM, it completely turning into FAT lol."*Bunny* said:I also think it's important to realize that you are not eating to get huge so you cannot get 'huge' ... lifting heavy at 2200 cals (which for you was a bulk if i remember), ok MAYBE that would add a little more muscle than you wanted.
CK - Iyou girl, but lemme ask you to clarify here ..."know I have lost LBM, it completely turning into FAT lol."
If I misread this slap me please... LBM cannot turn into fat, they are two completely different things.
Fat cells increase & decrease (unless you have lipo & get the physcially removed)
Muscles increase & decrease (I still dont think they can be 'toned') so with lack of use your muscles probably atrophied and loss of LBM definintely possible.
40/30/30 11 times weight in cals EVERYDAY regardless of cardio.ck2006 said:which program??? LMAO superset, or 3x8 (I do the TUT thingy), calories the same with no cardio? and if I can get cardio in, still keep the calories the same? also if I want to compete just do this until some fat comes off? Just printed off your spreadsheet, I have to substitute some exercises cause this is at home.
The Shadow said:40/30/30 11 times weight in cals EVERYDAY regardless of cardio.
This is good as it the third time the last few days I have seen folks varying cals AROUND exercise.
It makes zero sense to do that...I mean - I see where that option looks like a winner - but it isnt.
*Bunny* said:Ok you cant keep nuts or PB around right?
*Bunny* said:Your fats could be a little higher IMO.Do you eat AFTER your work out? Also wondering if you should nix the flax for bfast... wondering what others think about that. I prefer carbs + Protein, not really fat for 1st meal..
Ahh the infamous ab routine! Glad you are getting things figured out! Agree with Bunny on the fat thing.... How does your body respond to dairy as well?! Another thing to watch out for.ck2006 said:So here is the new menu, plugged into fitday, I can't get the 40/30/30 exact arrr
this is going to be for tomorrow
calories
1649
fat 24%
Carbs 35%
protein 41%
m1
3egg whites
2 eggs
tablespoon flaxseed oil
.5 cup cranberries
m2
1 cup turkey
.5 yogurt
m3
whey gold
apple
m4
3oz bison
2 cups beans
m5
tuna
1 cup carrots
1tablespoon pb
m6Whey gold
apple
skim milk .5 cup
Weights
3x8
Bench Press
Incline DB Press
Incline flyes
front raises
upright rows
military press
abs
superset - bicycles and scissors

treilin said:Ahh the infamous ab routine! Glad you are getting things figured out! Agree with Bunny on the fat thing.... How does your body respond to dairy as well?! Another thing to watch out for.![]()

I did those yesterday as well, kick my butt everytime I had to flip flop them for last two sets to make sure the scissors got it just as bad & the bicycles.treilin said:Ahh the infamous ab routine! Glad you are getting things figured out! Agree with Bunny on the fat thing.... How does your body respond to dairy as well?! Another thing to watch out for.![]()

*Bunny* said:I did those yesterday as well, kick my butt everytime I had to flip flop them for last two sets to make sure the scissors got it just as bad & the bicycles.
Morning ck![]()
ck2006 said:So here is the new menu, plugged into fitday, I can't get the 40/30/30 exact arrr
this is going to be for tomorrow
calories
1649
fat 24%
Carbs 35%
protein 41%
m1
3egg whites
2 eggs
tablespoon flaxseed oil
.5 cup cranberries
m2
1 cup turkey
.5 yogurt
m3
whey gold
apple
m4
3oz bison
2 cups beans
m5
tuna
1 cup carrots
1tablespoon pb
m6Whey gold
apple
skim milk .5 cup
Weights
3x8
Bench Press
Incline DB Press
Incline flyes
front raises
upright rows
military press
abs
superset - bicycles and scissors
The Shadow said:Ah yes.....
My ab super set favorite - that goes back a LONG time.....works due to the tut involved......
On your diet question......keep cals constant until you stop losing...if you tried to drop them weekly....it would drive you crazy.
EX
if you lost 2 pounds in a week...that means dropping 20 cals daily for the next week.....that is so within the standard scale and nutritional packaging error that it's negligible.
doing 8 reps doesnt mean you are building LBM btw.
How long is each rep??
Unless you are at at least 5 seconds per rep.....you arent in the right groove

The Shadow said:Find the Sticky that has my thread about TUT
SHUT IT training
read through it - specifically about the intervals for hypertrophy
ck2006 said:going to have to again, tried the sissors, I know I did them wrong, I didn't feel a thing, they were way to easy????
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