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Finasteride, propcia, only 2% have sexual side? Bullshit!!!!!

I have been on it since Jan /03, minimal sides. I notice that the sides go away after a while.

Also, there are studies showing that Finasteride reduces the risk of prostate cancer. It makes sense since it was designed to treat enlarged prostates


If you have problems (evryone gets them once in a while) try V 25mg will do more than what's needed

As far as sexual interest, try Proviron 25mg/day.

DR. JK
 
For some, sexual sides of finasteride are quite real. Strong sexual side effects are rare. As Dr. JK pointed out, side effects that one may have might fade with time.

Also, as he said, proviron = horny.
 
geoboy said:
comments on Nettles as sub for propecia anyone? doc's?
Nettle Root and DHT

Nettle Root

About 90% of testosterone is produced by the testes, the remainder by the adrenal glands. Testosterone functions as an aphrodisiac hormone in brains cells, and as an anabolic hormone in the development of bone and skeletal muscle. But testosterone that becomes bound to serum globulin is not available to cell receptor sites and fails to induce a libido effect. It is, therefore, desirable to increase levels of "free testosterone" in order to ignite sexual arousal in the brain.

As discussed already, a hormone that controls levels of free testosterone is called sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG). When testosterone binds to SHBG, it loses its biological activity and becomes known as "bound testosterone," as opposed to the desirable "free testosterone." As men age past year 45, SHBG's binding capacity increases almost dramatically-by 40% on average-and coincides with the age-associated loss of libido.

Some studies show that the decline in sexual interest with advancing age is not always due to the amount of testosterone produced, but rather to the increased binding of testosterone to globulin by SHBG. This explains why some older men who are on testosterone replacement therapy do not report a long-term aphrodisiac effect. That is, the artificially administered testosterone becomes bound by SHBG, and is not bioavailable to cellular receptor sites where it would normally produce a libido-enhancing effect.

It should be noted that the liver also causes testosterone to bind to globulin. This liver-induced binding of testosterone is worsened by the use of sedatives, anti-hypertensives, tranquilizers and alcoholic beverages. The overuse of drugs and alcohol could explain why some men do not experience a libido-enhancing effect when consuming drugs and plant-based aphrodisiacs. An interesting review, "How Desire Dies" (Nature, 381/6584, 1996), discusses how frequently prescribed drugs, such as beta-blockers and antidepressants, cause sexual dysfunction. Prescription drugs of all sorts have been linked to inhibition of libido.

Logically, one way of increasing libido in older men would be to block the testosterone-binding effects of SHBG. This would leave more testosterone in its free, sexually activating form.

A highly concentrated extract from the nettle root provides a unique mechanism for increasing levels of free testosterone. Recent European research has identified constituents of nettle root that bind to SHBG in place of testosterone, thus reducing SHBG's binding of free testosterone. As the authors of one study state, these constituents of nettle root "may influence the blood level of free, i.e. active, steroid hormones by displacing them from the SHBG bindings site."

The prostate gland also benefits from nettle root. In Germany, nettle root has been used as a treatment for benign prostatic hyperplasia (enlargement of the prostate gland) for decades. A metabolite of testosterone called dihydrotestosterone (DHT) stimulates prostate growth, leading to enlargement. Nettle root inhibits the binding of DHT to attachment sites on the prostate membrane.

Nettle extracts also inhibit enzymes such as 5 alpha reductase that cause testosterone to convert to DHT. It is the DHT metabolite of testosterone that is known to cause benign prostate enlargement, excess facial hair and hair loss at the top of the head.
 
Silent Method said:

yup- this was what originally prompted my interest. haven't tried it yet, but what sounds cool is "fact" that it frees test while blocking 5ar. if the reality is anything like the theory, this should be way better than finasteride/dutasteride.
 
I´ve ben on finasteride 1mg/day or 2mg/day(when on juice) for about 3-4 years, no sides, no down desire, no down dick.
And i keep my hair on, even with my MPB and roid use (anadrol, test, eq, so on...)
 
Vítor Rage said:
I´ve ben on finasteride 1mg/day or 2mg/day(when on juice) for about 3-4 years, no sides, no down desire, no down dick.
And i keep my hair on, even with my MPB and roid use (anadrol, test, eq, so on...)

Glad to hear that Vitor.

For all you guys that use proscar/propecia, did you notice any intial shedding when you started? I have been on for nearly 4 months and still have hair-fallout.
 
Browncloud: No i haven't noticed any sides and I've been on it for about five years or so. Just remeber that proscar was designed to be administered in 5mg doses for prostate, so its doubtful that a 5mg dose is really going to be that bad for you. But then again, different people react differently to different drugs.

WannaImpress: Any doc will tell you that it is very common to notice intial fallout with finasteride or minoxidil. It even states that on the paper insert that comes in the proscar box.The results begin to manifest themselves in about 4-5 months. Good Luck.
 
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