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edgecrusher said:
For a strongman or a powerlifter, I would never ever advocate a low carb diet.
For a strongman or a powerlifter, I would never ever advocate a low carb diet.
B0ARDIN087
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hehe my favorite is making a big ass meaty and cheesy lasagne and eating it all day.... seems to be a perfect ratio for me!
edgecrusher
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louden_swain said:
Would you care to expound on that thought?
BigBadBootyDaddy29
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I can expand on not advocating low carbs for an athlete. There is some sort of craze going on in America where low carb diets are big right now. The whole country wants that lean, athletic look, but the only problem is it is a "look". An athlete concerned with performance should only care about performance. A low carb diet leaves one feeling depleted and weak and without much endurance. If you are training hard, and eating clean, you won't get fat. Low/No carb diets work wonders for sedintary people or those who workout with low intensity (like pussies, underwear models, etc.). A 275lb powerlifter NEEDS carbs. An elite athlete cannot eat like an average person on an average diet like Atkins or something, and an elite athlete who competes at a body weight of ~100lbs more than the avg. person weighs really can't afford to eat like an average person.
A lot of clean carbs, like oatmeal, whole wheat bread and bagels, wheat pancakes, etc. will make you feel full and energized, and they do not pack excess fat on you.
I weigh about 270. I eat something like this.
8:30 AM
12 egg whites, 3 slices whole wheat toast, 3 servings of oatmeal.
11:30 AM
1/2 lb ground beef, 1 box Kraft Mac and Cheese
2:30 PM
2 scoops of Cytosport's Muscle Milk with 2 cups of skim milk a banana and 2 tablespoons of natural peanut butter mixed in.
5:30 PM
1 lb of boneless, skinless chicken, 3 servings of brown rice, 3 servings of a vegetable, and then something for dessert, either a candy bar or some pie or cake or something.
8:30 PM
2 scoops of muscle milk with 2 cups of skim milk, 2 whole wheat bagels with natural peanut butter (OR) a pizza with ham and pepperoni, and some Oreo cookies or a couple scoops of ice cream or something like that.
11PM
2 Cans of tuna fish with miracle whip, 4 slices of whole wheat bread.
What I try to worry about isn't so much a specific ratio, but I just say to myself I need a shitload of protein, a shitload of carbs, whatever fat happens to get in the way, and some sugar to keep my cravings down. I drink a gallon of skim milk throughout the day, a lot of Gatorade, a lot of water, and if I get the urge for an Iced Tea or a Coco-Cola I have 1 or 2, but I try to keep it few and far between.
Some tips are either have desserts like I do, or buy some of those little, mini snickers bars to snack on, or you will go crazy and after a week will eat 5 gallons of ice cream, trust me. Take a multi Vitamin, Vitamin C and also if you drink alcohol, it is good to add an additional B-Complex Vitamin because you will lose them through dehydration. I don't count anything, except protein, the rest I just go by feel. Sugar is the least important and is just good in small amounts to satisfy cravings, protein, fat and carbs are necessary staples of any athlete's diet.
What you have to keep in mind is forget about conventional diets for Joe Average. Look how you train....If you ate like this and your workout looked like this.....Bench Press 3x8-10, Incline Press 3x8-10, and Cable Crossovers 3x10-15, you'd get fat, and very fat, but look how you train, what class you compete in, and you'd see that extradorinary physical feats require not so average measures.
A lot of clean carbs, like oatmeal, whole wheat bread and bagels, wheat pancakes, etc. will make you feel full and energized, and they do not pack excess fat on you.
I weigh about 270. I eat something like this.
8:30 AM
12 egg whites, 3 slices whole wheat toast, 3 servings of oatmeal.
11:30 AM
1/2 lb ground beef, 1 box Kraft Mac and Cheese
2:30 PM
2 scoops of Cytosport's Muscle Milk with 2 cups of skim milk a banana and 2 tablespoons of natural peanut butter mixed in.
5:30 PM
1 lb of boneless, skinless chicken, 3 servings of brown rice, 3 servings of a vegetable, and then something for dessert, either a candy bar or some pie or cake or something.
8:30 PM
2 scoops of muscle milk with 2 cups of skim milk, 2 whole wheat bagels with natural peanut butter (OR) a pizza with ham and pepperoni, and some Oreo cookies or a couple scoops of ice cream or something like that.
11PM
2 Cans of tuna fish with miracle whip, 4 slices of whole wheat bread.
What I try to worry about isn't so much a specific ratio, but I just say to myself I need a shitload of protein, a shitload of carbs, whatever fat happens to get in the way, and some sugar to keep my cravings down. I drink a gallon of skim milk throughout the day, a lot of Gatorade, a lot of water, and if I get the urge for an Iced Tea or a Coco-Cola I have 1 or 2, but I try to keep it few and far between.
Some tips are either have desserts like I do, or buy some of those little, mini snickers bars to snack on, or you will go crazy and after a week will eat 5 gallons of ice cream, trust me. Take a multi Vitamin, Vitamin C and also if you drink alcohol, it is good to add an additional B-Complex Vitamin because you will lose them through dehydration. I don't count anything, except protein, the rest I just go by feel. Sugar is the least important and is just good in small amounts to satisfy cravings, protein, fat and carbs are necessary staples of any athlete's diet.
What you have to keep in mind is forget about conventional diets for Joe Average. Look how you train....If you ate like this and your workout looked like this.....Bench Press 3x8-10, Incline Press 3x8-10, and Cable Crossovers 3x10-15, you'd get fat, and very fat, but look how you train, what class you compete in, and you'd see that extradorinary physical feats require not so average measures.
BigBadBootyDaddy29
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Yeah, I spend a lot of money on food, but I never hesitate to spend a penny on something I find important. I should buy stock in milk and eggs. I shop all the time, I grew to love the grocery store. I buy 3 gallons of milk on Mon and it is gone by Thurs, but I don't care what I spend on something I prioitize. There was a time when I would spend $200 on a night of drinking and club hopping, and all I had to show for that was a headache and more regrets than I care to count.
I've got a little recipe while I am thinking of it, and since you wanted ideas of what to eat DBcooper, here is. Sometimes I will make an enchalada casserole. It is 2lbs of lean ground beef (I like the 95/5 at Wegman's or the 90/10), any type of enchalada seasoning you want either canned, boxed, bottled, or something you made up myself, a package of Kraft Mexican Cheese, and 12 whole wheat tortillas, and 1 grated onion.
I brown the beef and the onion and season it, then layer a casserole dish with 4 tortillas, spoon on some of the beef mixture and sprinkle on some cheese. I repeat until I have 3 layers (at which point all my ingredients are used up. Then throw it in the oven at 375 until the cheese bubbles (about 15min, maybe more). I eat that with sour cream. I eat it throughout the day, it takes me 4 meals to finish it, in between I will drink a couple servings of muscle milk.
Just an idea, I have more if you want them, and they probably would be better suited to another forum, but I just wanted to put that here, cause the diet is related to how you train.
I never ate like total shit at any point in my life, but at times I'd skip breakfast, or I' go to a buffet and stuff myself to the point where I couldn't stomach food for another 6 hours, and that slows down the metabolism. Buffets can be a useful tool, but you need to be smart about them, sometimes too much shit will slow doen your metabolism and you won't wanna think about food the rest of the day. If you eat like I outlined, even though it my seem like a lot, it is generally clean, and you should be hungry every 2.5-3 hours right on the nose.
Oh yeah, if you have trouble with eggsin huge quantities, try scrambling in a half-pound of ham off the bone with them, or a half pound of ground beef or turkey, it helps them go down much quicker.
Give this a fair chance and I promise you'll love it, you'll be counting down the seconds to your next meal, and your next trip to the grocery store.
I've got a little recipe while I am thinking of it, and since you wanted ideas of what to eat DBcooper, here is. Sometimes I will make an enchalada casserole. It is 2lbs of lean ground beef (I like the 95/5 at Wegman's or the 90/10), any type of enchalada seasoning you want either canned, boxed, bottled, or something you made up myself, a package of Kraft Mexican Cheese, and 12 whole wheat tortillas, and 1 grated onion.
I brown the beef and the onion and season it, then layer a casserole dish with 4 tortillas, spoon on some of the beef mixture and sprinkle on some cheese. I repeat until I have 3 layers (at which point all my ingredients are used up. Then throw it in the oven at 375 until the cheese bubbles (about 15min, maybe more). I eat that with sour cream. I eat it throughout the day, it takes me 4 meals to finish it, in between I will drink a couple servings of muscle milk.
Just an idea, I have more if you want them, and they probably would be better suited to another forum, but I just wanted to put that here, cause the diet is related to how you train.
I never ate like total shit at any point in my life, but at times I'd skip breakfast, or I' go to a buffet and stuff myself to the point where I couldn't stomach food for another 6 hours, and that slows down the metabolism. Buffets can be a useful tool, but you need to be smart about them, sometimes too much shit will slow doen your metabolism and you won't wanna think about food the rest of the day. If you eat like I outlined, even though it my seem like a lot, it is generally clean, and you should be hungry every 2.5-3 hours right on the nose.
Oh yeah, if you have trouble with eggsin huge quantities, try scrambling in a half-pound of ham off the bone with them, or a half pound of ground beef or turkey, it helps them go down much quicker.
Give this a fair chance and I promise you'll love it, you'll be counting down the seconds to your next meal, and your next trip to the grocery store.
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BigBadBootyDaddy29
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Spatts, I caught your post and I finished editing mine. I find that if I eat just carbs, they knock me out, but if I get a mix of a lot of carbs, a lot of protein, with some fat, I feel great.
I could never eat just oatmeal, then train, but if I eat say 3-4 servings of oatmeal, some toast, then 2 tablespoons of peanut butter, I feel fine. Or if I eat oatmeal, then a doughnut or 2, I am fine.
I could never eat just oatmeal, then train, but if I eat say 3-4 servings of oatmeal, some toast, then 2 tablespoons of peanut butter, I feel fine. Or if I eat oatmeal, then a doughnut or 2, I am fine.
My oats are 1/2 cup raw oats, 1 scoop chocolate protein powder, 1 TBS natty peanut butter, and 2 packets of splenda. Tastes like Reeses and gets the job done.
I don't have your luck with the food combining. My diet has been about 60% protein since I was a kid. I get around 400g a day, every day. Typical type O from what I understand.
This thread really should be in the diet forum, but I fear the answers you'll get there, so I'm leaving it here.
I don't have your luck with the food combining. My diet has been about 60% protein since I was a kid. I get around 400g a day, every day. Typical type O from what I understand.
This thread really should be in the diet forum, but I fear the answers you'll get there, so I'm leaving it here.
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DBCooper
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Thanks Spatts, I know we talked, yes carbs knock me out. I was checking what everyone else was eating. I read that oats/milk/protein/pb shake thing in muscle food and will use that as well. I might first focus on increased protein intake, get that down and then move to the other parts.
