Complete cycle and diet revampation! THanks bros!

[VictorBR]

yeah bro , you gotta find a way to add in some carbs . Even if it is high glycemic , it is better than nothing .

See, you go to bed at 9:30 and wake up 4:30 , so it is 7 hours without any food . Then you go to the gym to train , lift heavy ass weights without ANY CARBS ? Your strenght will go down bro ... eat some carbs in your first meal , even if it is gatorade . The ideal would be low glycemic but if you can't , go for high glycemic , WAY better than no carbs ...

About the diet , It looks good , but for detalied info I would have to ask how many cals are you eating and what is your BMR .

when bulking I follow a simple rule , it is never good to mix in fats and carbs. Well you can but it gotta be extremely low glycemic carbs and good fats .

So , I do it like this :

meal 1- protein + carbs

meal 2- protein + carbs

WEIGHT TRAINING .

meal 3 ( ASAP after training ) - protein + carbs - high glycemic carbs here and ZERO FAT .

meal 4- protein + carbs

meal 5 - protein + carbs + EFA

meal 6- protein + EFA

When bulking , since I am an endomorph , I end up eating 3.200 cals only . and I am 210 pounds .

Since you are an ecto , I think you could bump up the cals , but keep in mind protein builds muscle not excess calories . You don't need to EAT way above your BMR to build muscle . Just make sure you don't eat below your BMR and keep your protein high , and you should pack on the muscle without gaining any fat ...

if you are concerned about fat gain I would suggest something like this :

Example , let's say your BMR is 2.500 cals for example .

and let's say you spend 600 cals working out ED .

To grow without gaining fat you would have to eat 3.100 cals ED ( 2.500 from your BMR + 600 extra cals that you burn on the gym )

EVerytime you EAT more than that you are risking FAT GAIN .

EVerytime you EAT below that , and you are risking to not grow , it is possible to grow eating below your BMR , macro and fonz already explained why , but it is very hard , specially for an ectomorph .


Hope that helps


Victor

 

[JKurz1]

I don't believe in the pro+fats+carbs = FAT myth if the carbs are low glycemic and in moderation...not that you are wrong bro, just not my theory. I've combined all three at EVERY meal, dieting or not............as for counting cals, never counted a cal in my life. I count protein calories and everyhthing else in moderation..........I would wager my diet I posted is roughly 3,500 cals............where now, i'm consuming probable 2,500.......what do you think more or less?

 

[JKurz1]

AND, you think gatorade will work, make that much of a difference eh? Even if I eat like 2 secs before bed?

On the weekends Ill be ok, I can get in a few meals first...........but other than that, itll be rough!

 

[wellbilt]

loooks good kruz but you gotta get some carbs before training you could add 1-2 cups oatmeal to your 4:30 shake or bring some gatorade to the gym i use quaker oats the plain quick 1 minute oats there chopped up small so they cook faster so when you mix them in with your shake they get soft and go down easy good luck bro

 

[JKurz1]

loooks good kruz but you gotta get some carbs before training you could add 1-2 cups oatmeal to your 4:30 shake or bring some gatorade to the gym i use quaker oats the plain quick 1 minute oats there chopped up small so they cook faster so when you mix them in with your shake they get soft and go down easy good luck bro

Thanks felllas.....Maybe I'll do a quick oats whey shake???? 15 minutes before to soon??? Think my diet is on point though? I worked hard on it.....need to it do it naturally for awhile.....I just slammed two who plates of pasta, wth shrimp.....salad...2 glasses of wine.....peanuts........cottage cheese....im readddy boyssss

 

[Anakin]

The carbs+fat is more complicated than people think.

Adding fat to carbs will slow their digestion and therefore it will lower their GI.

Look at many foods with low GIs: it's because they have either fiber or fat. White potatoes are a complex carb but they have high GI because unless you eat em with skin, it digests and breaks down to a simple carb fast. A Snickers bar has a lot of sugar, but it's GI is moderate. Why? Because the fat in it slows down digestion. After all, GI simply means how fast carbs rush into your bloodstream in the form of simple sugars.

 

[VictorBR]

I don't believe in the pro+fats+carbs = FAT myth if the carbs are low glycemic and in moderation...not that you are wrong bro, just not my theory. I've combined all three at EVERY meal, dieting or not............as for counting cals, never counted a cal in my life. I count protein calories and everyhthing else in moderation..........I would wager my diet I posted is roughly 3,500 cals............where now, i'm consuming probable 2,500.......what do you think more or less?

>>>> Yeah like I said , if you use good fats and extremely low glycemic foods , it is ok .

About the cals , I think 3.500 is ok for someone that is 185 lbs and extomorph ... See the difference here ? I am endomorph , and I weight 210 lbs and I will bulk on 3300 cals . But 3.500 is fine for you since you are an ecto .


Victor

 

[casualbb]

bro at 185 and a cycle that heavy, just eat whatever

How much mass you gain will be a result of the sheer volume of food you can put down

 

[JKurz1]

THANKS BRO...............going to stay natty for awhile, till I learn to EAT!

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to casualbb again.

 

[JKurz1]

Oh, and the weekends.......f-it............everything is fair game as long as I get my protein in...........sound decent?