Any one practice martial arts?

[solidj55]

I am a powerlifter so I dont post much on this board. I am curious about martial arts, so for all you that know about it I have some questions. First of all, I am wanting to find one that is most practical to use in Street Fights, Bar Room Brawls, etc. The reason I ask is because I will be bouncing at a bar soon and after I graduate college Ill be going to police academy. The only types of Martial arts in my area are Karate, Tai kwon do, and something called Aikedo or Hapkiedo(not sure of the spelling). Are any of these practical in real life fighting??? Also, how much would this hurt my powerlifting? Its really ok if it does because it will be worth it in the long run. How do most guys weight train when trying to be good a martial arts, also I hear that alot of cardio is done as well. Im not wanting to compete, I just want to be able to use it effectively because I know my ass will be fighting a lot.

 

[riskybizz007]

Well my uncle is (or was) a powerlifter. He was a very big dude and powerlifting was his life. Then he started running around to check out different Martial Arts and ended up in Aikedo. I've been to a few different dojos (sp?) and I like Aikedo the best by far. There are different styles of Aikedo, he goes to one that has some Aikedo mixed w/ a little JuJitsu. Awesome shit i've learned. Kung Fu is a lot of high kicks and crazy shit really not meant for big dudes. TaeKwonDo i think is the worst of all Martial Arts, really a waste of time. Karate don't know shit about it. Just know about the others and Aikedo. I think there's variations in everything w/ different instructors. Might want to check the places out before signing anywhere. I know my neighbor is a friekin tall toothpick but the fucker is untouchable. Last person (a freind) who snuck up behind him trying to scare him broke his nose as he turned around. I dont' know... just telling you what i know.

By the way i should add that he's dropped a lot of weight w/ cardio b/c he says it's necessary for speed and agility. So that might be your only drawback.

 

[solidj55]

Thanks for the info bro, I dont how much weight I can drop because im only 165lbs now lol, thats the class I compete in. But me like your uncle, powerlifting is my life lol. I dont know what Im going to do yet though. Im not much into the high(useless) kicks.
Im hoping to find something related to a wrestling/throwing punches/joint locks/grappling type thing. lol I dont even know if there is such a thing.

 

[ballast]

The only fighting style I've tried and found has good carryover to the street is Jeet Kune Do.Not many places teach this.It focus on all the combat ranges;they teach you how to initiate with a kick,do a little boxing to get close, then use the knees and elbows for a finisher.They also teach some throws and joint locks, but no groundfighting/wrestling.Out of the three you mentioned, I'd say karate is the most applicable to streetfighting and tae kwon do has the least(lots of fancy bullshit high kicks mostly).You might want to look into a good boxing coach.They'll teach you some good offensive and defensive techniques as well as getting you into awesome shape.Maybe try to find a good wrestling coach to teach you some ground techniques.These two "styles" should be about all you'll need.

 

[18echo]

check it out, dude.

no martial art is really that applicable to bring to the street. having said that, also consider that ANY style will be enough to kick your ass if the practitioner is advanced enough. but i speak specifically of the people who have reached such advanced levels that it's instinctive to them- that is to say, the ability and the speed. it takes alot of heart and commitment to reach those levels. and alot of people get discouraged when they don't become bruce fucking lee over night.

for instance, i took wushu and traditional kung-fu for quite a while. yes, there are alot of crazy kicks and shit, but when you observe the speed, strength and dexterity of the blackbelts, you see why they would be lethal on the street. not directly because of the style, but because of the physical ability they posess in having mastered it.

for about 4 months i took wing chun, a style that was actually developed by a women ( i believe). this is the style that bruce lee mastered before the creation of jeet kun do. it is probably the most applicable style to bring to the street. it involved severe speed and moving the fight in close. out of 4 months, before i developed elbow tendonitis (from drilling with speed punches), i really only effectively learned 3 or 4 techniques. these wer each very short, quick and devastating. they were really the only few i trained in. with variations in the situation, but always employing the same shit. it was drilled into my fucking head, where it still is today.

for as many people you ask, there will be some opinion promoting another style. some will say that jiu jitsu is the best on the ground, and i believe that it is. jiu jitsu fighters will tell you that q fight always ends up on the ground. others will tell you that if the fight gets to the ground, you're doing something wrong, and so on.

if there are a limited amount of schools in wyour area, i would suggest you check out who has the best instruction, and then begin to train there, no matter the style. you can learn conditioning, stamina and discipline from a good instructor. then you can move on when choices become available.

that help?

 

[riskybizz007]

The Aikedo moves that have been taught to me are very simple. Simple meaning 1 or 2 moves and that's it. Not really kicking and punching type of stuff more like you throw the punch and they'll break your wrist or elbow w/ the punch you threw. It's more offensive at least what's been taught to me. Basic theory from what i've learned is you may throw your punch or kick but i'm going to try to grab you. Once i grab you and bring you close it's pretty much over. The punch will hurt but once you grab the opponent and break his hand there's no more punching or kicking going on. It's basically like your fight lasting a few seconds and it's over. I'm not saying one is better than the other, i'm sure there's a lot of ass kicking going on on both sides, i just like the fights to end a.s.a.p. and making sure that guy aint going to get up.

Bro you're 165? I thought you were in the upper 200's. Most bouncers i've seen are humungous lol. Well you dont' really have to lose weight i don't think. My uncle is 5'11" and used to weigh like 245, now he's about 205-210 and he can do all that's required. Good luck bro and my only advice is to sit in some classes and make your decision from there. Let me know what you think when u do go, i'm curious as to your take.

 

[riskybizz007]

"no martial art is really that applicable to bring to the street. having said that, also consider that ANY style will be enough to kick your ass if the practitioner is advanced enough. "

Bro I'm not bragging or anythign like that. Just want to prove that above point. This guy was 3rd degree black belt, and I only knew very basics in different marital arts. We were always fighting verbally at work. One day we take it to the parking lot and he said if i could kick his ass he'd bow down to me, if not he'd take the $100 in that were in my pocket. Well the dude tried all the high flying kicks and aerial shit and i just kept grabbing the dude and putting him in locks he couldn't get out of. I took him 3 times. After that i lost total respect for all that fast high kick stuff. Especially when he went for a kick and i grabbed him in the air and brought him down. Very bad. Not trying to brag or anything, that aint the point. I don't know if his technique just flat out sucked, if i got lucky, or if that kung fu w/ high kicks and all that are just unrealistic in streets.

 

[solidj55]

Thanks for all the info, its helped a lot. Im thinking of trying several different classes.
riskybizz-lol yea im a small guy but i can usually hold my own. I was actually a pretty good wrestler(the real shit not WWF lol) back in the day and Im pretty strong(thats where the powerlifting has helped) so I always use that to my advantage. i just basically need to learn some shit like how to throw a few good blows rather than the usual go for the knockout haymakers that I like to throw lol. The whole joint lock aspect of Aikedo and breaking bones turns me on. If they would only teach me to throw some effective punches along with it I would be happy. Aikedo sounds the best to me because it doesnt sound like much cardio is involved and that would allow me to get stronger rather than losing weight and shit.

 

[Blood&Iron]

I trained in Bujinkan, commonly known as ninjutsu--you know ninjas--for a while and at the same dojo there were Aikido guys. Traditional Aikido takes a *really* long time to get to the good stuff, and some of their techniques are not, in my somewhat uneducated opinion, that applicable in the real world. They're real big on the bowing stuff and the formality of the martial arts. I think it's a martial art you've got to study for quite awhile for it to be useful in a fight. This is also true ,to greater or lesser extents, for ninjutsu, jujutsu, and most traditional martial arts. You spend a lot of the initial time learning to fall and so forth. But while the Aikido guys were spending time bowing to each other, we were starting to get to how to disarm someone armed with a knife, etc. That just my opinion though.

 

[riskybizz007]

Blood you do bring up a really good point. Although i do think some of Aikido is nonapplicable in society (but also depends on trainer and his technique as well), but the moves do take a long ass time to learn. I remember people telling me it took them 1 month to learn X move. That's the big drawback to it. Takes a long time to learn some moves that look so simple, it's all about maintaining center of gravity and taking opponents center of gravity and all that funny stuff. It's effective to say the least though. I know there's many martial arts out there, but of the 3 originally listed "Tae-Kwondo, Karate, and Aikedo" i would definately choose the Aikeido over the other 2. Unless maybe you could find something better but a little farther away from you.