Test-EQ-Va/Tbol

[vickrx7]

Hi guys, this is my first post although i've read pretty much every other thread on this site, i just didn't wanna hijack someone elses. I was just looking for some input form some vets or people who have expierienced similar cycles. I would like to do a lean mass cycle with "somewhat" milder gear, I really did not want to use Tren

Here is what i had in mind
Either Test E, C or Sust250 - 250mg E5D - 12w
EQ - 300mg E5D - 14w

and i didn't know if i should go
TBol - 1-4 50mg ED
Var - 10-14 60mg ED

or if i should drop either the Var or TBol and do
Var 9-14 70mg ED

This will be my 2nd cyle....i would say 1st really because my first was just a 4week Tbol only Cycle of 60mg ED, and i got incredible gains. I gained a ton of weight and a ton of strength...much more than i had expected, I was about 175lb 13% bf, I got up to 195lb at about 14%bf and now i am approx 180 9%bf and i'm ready for a "real" cycle with a light test base.
I know how to run proper PCT and i know how to fight gyno so i don't need any pointers with that...my diet is close to perfect and my goal is 195lb 6-8% bf (not necessary just form this cycle, just in general). TBol did work extremely well with me and with no sides, i did retain some water but nothing serious. This is why i don't know if i should just drop the var and do it again, because i REALLY want to try var from everything i've read. They run me about the same $. I hanv't purchased anythign yet but i can get Test E, C or Sust, i can also get EQ, Deca, Winny, Tbol, Var, Masteron, Primo....Primo is EFFIN PRICY tho so the only way i will run it if it is MUCH better than EQ...so i was torn between Masteron and EQ, but i've heard peple say Masterons benefits do not last very long.

My stats are
5 years lifting
5' 10 or 11 it's always different lol
180, 9% bf (all upper body lmao, legs just get stronger for me, not big)

 

[d_rson]

Age?

 

[vickrx7]

22

 

[d_rson]

First inject should be test only - because you'll probably always want to have test in your cycles going forward, so this way you know how you react to test, what dosages, estrogen effects, etc. I wouldn't run EQ the first time because you may not be able to distinquick what is causing what side effect.

W 1 - 10 500mg Test E, twice a week
W 5 - 15 HCGenerate as directed
W 12 - 15 Sustain Alpha or Post Cycle
W 12 - 15 Unleashed as directed

Have an AI like Aromasin on hand for estrogen.

You indicate you know how to run a PCT, just wondering when you ran a PCT after Test before (as well as combating gyno from running test).

 

[vickrx7]

lol well i think i know how to run PCT haha, i was under the impression that i whould start it 12 days after last inject (approx half life of test e) and run Nolva 40-30-20-20....that is what i did for Tbol (exept i started the day after last pills) and i kept all my gains. But since i will be more shut down from test i was thinking of running a little bit of Clomid, or just some natural test boosters with a shit load of tribulus.

Ya, i deffinately get what your saing about not running the EQ for the first time, and if i'll still get good gains it's all good to me.....cheaper not to lmao

do you think it would still be okay to run Tbol to kickstart and Var at the end....i know i do not get sides from Tbol and it should be done by the time the test REALLY kicks in (4 weeks) and if the i get no sides by week 7-8 from the Test, would it not be okay to run some VAR to lean out.

Test E - 250 E4D - 12 weeks
Tbol - 50mg ED - weeks 1-4
Var - 80mg ED - week 10-14
Nolva 40-30-20-20 - week 14-18
possibly clomid or w/e i can get my hands on to help the nolva

as for gyno...i'll probably get it so i'll just keep some Nolva on hand, or ask my boy if he can get Arimadex
think it would help to run a OTC anti aromatase product, just to help prevent...or should i just buy more Nolva and run 10mg ED