Test Cypionate Cycle Advice

[jaypee31]

Ok so i've been researching relentlessly for a while and i think i've gathered enough info to construct what i presume is a sound logical and safe cycle.

First cycle, so going with the cyp due to less pin's needed, and the countless reasons why test only first cycles are the way to go.

first my stats.

STATS:

Age: 21 (i know it's young but ive been lifting for 6 years)
Height: 5'9
Weight: 80kgs
BF: 9-10%- got measured at 6.7 with calippers but not sure how acurate that was!
Lifting Exp: as mentioned 6 years
Dieting: for 3 years solid

GOALS:

gain an extra 5kg lean muscle (obviously a little bloating will occur, which i will minimize via diet)

TRAINING:

- Will consist of high volume hypertrophy training reps at 2:2 with 1 minute rest inbetween sets, except on "key excercises" E.g. Bench press.
- Cardio for 10 minutes on an incline of 15% at a speed of 5.5kmh post workout.

Mon- Chest
Tues- Back
Wed- Low intensity Cardio + abs
Thurs- Legs
Fri- Shoulders
Sat- Bi's and Tri's + Abs
Sun- Rest

DIET:

Calories: 3,500 (500 over maintenance)
Macro Split: 40:40:20 (P:350g, C:350g, F:78

Sample Diet:

Meal 1: 1 Cup of Oats + 2 Scoops of Whey

Meal 2: 1 Cup of Cottage Cheese + 20 ALmonds

Meal 3: 200g Chicken Breast + 1 Cup Brown Rice + 1 Serving Steamed Vegetables (Brocolli, Cauli, Carrots)

Meal 4: (Pre Workout) 1 Scoop of Whey + 1/2 Cup of Oats

Meal 5: Post Workout (immediate) 2 Scoops Hydro Whey + 8 Pitted Dates

Meal 6: Post-Post (1 hour after previous meal) 200g Grilled Chicken Breast + 100g Sweet Potato + 1 Serving Steamed Vegetables

Meal 7: 200g Kangaroo Fillet + Steamed Vegetables + 50g Sweet Potato

Meal 8: 1 Cup of Cottage Cheese + 20 Almonds

Ok, now on to the cycle.

CYCLE:

Test Cyp:
- Week 1-10 (250mg 2x per week) Monday Morning + Thursday night [3.5 days]

ANCILERIES:

A-dex:
-Week 1-12: .5mg ED

PCT:

begins 12 days after last pin

Nolva:
- Week 13: 20mg 2x per day (total 40mg)
- Week 14-16: 20mg Per Day


Ok so my questions are, is it really necessary to add in HCG? if so at what dosages and when?

Also is Nolva sufficient enough for PCT. From the reading i have done, there appear to be a lot of mixed opinions, however Nolva seems to be the preffered

Thanks in advance for any info!

P.s Dont rip me to shreds, i have researched and am looking for constructive criticism, tips and advice.

Thanks, Jay

 

[deejleos]

Test dose is ok, keep adex on hand, take only if needed. U need some on cycle support HCG or if u have access to HCgenerate(which i love to use), start that around 4th week. Ur PCT is not so good. And if u have access to the OTC supps unleashed/ Post cycle I would recommend them, if not I would do a low dose of clomid and just forget about the nolva.


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[EZ_E]

160 is kinda light and 21 y.o. IS too young IMO

But;

Keep the a-dex on hand but use it only if need be....

Nolva is garrrrrrrbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage

HCGenerate for the last 4-5 weeks of the cycle and into PCT
Forma Stanzol after last pin for 7 weeks
Post Cycle/Unleashed combo 2 weeks after last pin for 5 weeks
Then run Bridge until next cycle

No one is going to rip you to shreds, that's not how it works here on EF

Where do you get kangaroo fillet? Never mind I guess I know....

~EZ

 

[hydez27]

160 is kinda light and 21 y.o. IS too young IMO

But;

Keep the a-dex on hand but use it only if need be....

Nolva is garrrrrrrbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage

HCGenerate for the last 4-5 weeks of the cycle and into PCT
Forma Stanzol after last pin for 7 weeks
Post Cycle/Unleashed combo 2 weeks after last pin for 5 weeks
Then run Bridge until next cycle

No one is going to rip you to shreds, that's not how it works here on EF

Where do you get kangaroo fillet? Never mind I guess I know....

~EZ

Im with ez e nolva is rubbish


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[jaypee31]

thanks for the quick reply.

Ok so in regards to HCG starting at week four for how long, and what dosage do you recommend. is 500ui E3D (same days as test) suffice?

PCT, whats wrong with it? i will look for the unleashed/post cycle combo. It looks good. Can you get it from supplement stores or the net legally? I'm in Australia so all this stuffs a bitch to source out.

Damn, this PCT dilemna between Clomid and Nolva is frustrating! if clomid, what doses? i've read 50/50/20/20 ED..

cheers

 

[EZ_E]

HCGenerate, not HGC

Bodybuilding, Need to Build Muscle, Muscle Bodybuilding

~EZ

 

[hydez27]

Im in sydney bro, u can get it legally from needtobuildmuscle.net
Use needto139 for 15 percent of
They are very cheap i think about 50 bucks for the combo


Pain is temporary, glory is forever,
Pm me for information on ntbm products and discounts
NTBM Toll Free Number: ( 1-855-236-6987 )

 

[deejleos]

Im in sydney bro, u can get it legally from needtobuildmuscle.net
Use needto139 for 15 percent of
They are very cheap i think about 50 bucks for the combo


Pain is temporary, glory is forever,
Pm me for information on ntbm products and discounts
NTBM Toll Free Number: ( 1-855-236-6987 )

Nice ^^^^^. He's right NTBM is gonna be ur best bet!


Sent from my iPhone punk!

 

[jaypee31]

160 is kinda light and 21 y.o. IS too young IMO

But;

Keep the a-dex on hand but use it only if need be....

Nolva is garrrrrrrbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage

HCGenerate for the last 4-5 weeks of the cycle and into PCT
Forma Stanzol after last pin for 7 weeks
Post Cycle/Unleashed combo 2 weeks after last pin for 5 weeks
Then run Bridge until next cycle

No one is going to rip you to shreds, that's not how it works here on EF

Where do you get kangaroo fillet? Never mind I guess I know....


~EZ

haha in response to the 160lbs ocmment.. 80kg is 176.

Ok so you suggestditch the Nolva and instead:

Weeks 4-16: HCG Generate
Weeks 12-18: Forma Stanzol
Weeks 12-16: Unleashed/ Post cycle Combo..

And to use A-dex if i feel sides coming on?

P.s. Kangaroo fillet is everywhere in Aus! Amazing stuff, almost equivelent to a whey shake (protein to calorie ratio)

Thanks

 

[ALIN]

At 21 I would check my natural levels of testosterone before I started up a cycle.
You may already be in the high levels and just need DIET,,training and rest.