Rolling During Shrugs

[2 ton hoss]

WHAT IS SO BAD ABOUT ROLLING DURING SHRUGS? TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE, ROLLING IS WHEN YOU KIND OF PUSH YOUR SHULDERS UP AND FORWARD, THEN UP TO THE TOP, THEN DOWN AND BACK? DOES THAT CAUSE ROTATOR CUFF DAMAGE? OR WHAT?

THANKS.

2 TON HOSS

 

[CytoMel]

Never roll your shoulders during shrugs-ONLY go straight up and down.

I am not gonna give some geeky cut+paste answer why either but anyone who knows training will tell you to go straight up and down.

Traps build easily so shrug fast straight up and down dont pull your head back in the vulture position when straining.

Your weight on the bar could soon exceed the time that you could hold onto it so dont waste any time fucking up your shoulders by rolling.

 

[b fold the truth]

Why are you doing the shrugs?

Why do you want to roll them at the top?

How will rolling them help you meet your goals?

B True

 

[2 ton hoss]

ALL I AM INTERESTED IN IS WHY IT IS BAD TO DO. IF IT IS NOT ACTUALLY BAD OR PROBLEM CAUSING TO ROLL, THEN JUST SAY SO, AND JUST SAY IT'S A SUB-OPTIMAL WAY TO WORK OUT. IF IT IS IN FACT BAD OR PROBLEMATIC TO ROLL, I'D APPRECIATE KNOWING THE ANSWER. IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT IS COOL, BUT IT KIND OF PISSES ME OFF I ASK A QUESTION AND I GET THIS "I AM NOT GONNA TELL YOU WHY BUT BELIEVE ME IT IS BAD" FROM ONE GUY AND THIS SIGMUND FREUD ACT FROM THE OTHER.

HEE HEE

2 TON HOSS

 

[Thaibox]

BUT IT KIND OF PISSES ME OFF I ASK A QUESTION AND I GET THIS "I AM NOT GONNA TELL YOU WHY BUT BELIEVE ME IT IS BAD" FROM ONE GUY AND THIS SIGMUND FREUD ACT FROM THE OTHER.

It kind of pisses me off when people make asshole statements like that about people that are trying to help them.

 

[2 ton hoss]

It kind of pisses me off when people make asshole statements like that about people that are trying to help them.

I AM NOT BEING AN ASSHOLE. I AM BEING REALISTIC. LET US REVIEW THE SITUATION.

1) HOSS ASKS EXACTLY WHAT THE PROBLEM WITH DOING ROTATING SHRUGS IS, BECAUSE HOSS IS IGNORANT AND HOSS WANTS TO KNOW IF ANYONE KNOWS.

2) THE FIRST GUY BASICALLY JUST SAYS "THEY'RE BAD, DON'T DO THEM" AND TELLS ME THE RIGHT WAY TO BUILD UP TRAPS. WELL FINE AND DANDY, BUT WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO KNOW WAS WHAT I ASKED, I.E., WHAT THE PROBLEM WITH DOING ROLLS IS.

3) THE SECOND GUY ASKS ME A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS TOTALLY UNRELATED TO THE QUESTION. I DO NOT WANT TO DO GOAL SETTING. I DO NOT WANT TO REVIEW MY WORKOUT PROGRAM. I ASKED A VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION AND I GOT VERY GENERAL ANSWERS.

NOW THIS IS NOT THE CHAT BOARD. IN THERE, I ASK A QUESTION, I EXPECT TO BE BULLSHITTED AND HAVE SOME FUN. HERE, IF I ASK A QUESTION, EITHER I EXPECT AN ANSWER OR I EXPECT NO REPLY AT ALL. MAYBE I AM OUT OF LINE, MAYBE THIS BOARD IS JUST LIKE THE CHAT BOARD BUT MORE DIRECTED TOWARDS LIFTING GOSSIP. WHO KNOWS.

AND I DO NOT BELIEVE I HAVE BEEN AN ASSHOLE. I HAVE NOT INSULTED ANYONE, BUT MERELY SPOKEN THE TRUTH. WHY SHOULD I BE THANKFUL FOR PEOPLE GIVING ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS I DID NOT ASK? I DO NOT BEGRUDGE THEM ANYTHING, BUT NEITHER WILL I THANK THEM.

ANYWAY THIS IS ALL TOO COMPLICATED. YOU ARE TOO EMOTIONAL, THAI. USE SOME LOGIC. I GUESS I WILL JUST ASK SOME GUYS IN THE GYM TOMORROW.

HOPE NO ONE TOOK OFFENSE AT THIS. I AM A VERY DETACHED PERSON SOMETIMES, BUT I MEANT ABSOLUTELY NO OFFENSE (NEITHER DID I MEAN TO BE LOVEY DOVEY)

 

[Haz]

2 Ton is right, no one is giving him a straight answer to his simple question.

Personally, I'm not sure if it will cause any damage to roll your shoulders. However, it won't help you build your traps either.

 

[beastboy]

Ignore the answer if you don't like it. Do you expect to agree with everything on this board?

 

[Y_lifter]

I'll take the heat for being devils Advocate on this one...

I believe BFold's questions are what I call Clarifying Questions.
In order to best answer your question he may want to know why you are asking this SPECIFIC question bro.

There are Mixed reviews regarding Shrugs and Benefits and Risks or rolling them.

Do a search as this question has been asked a few times and has had several near flame fests ensue.

Some say the rolling gives the full range of motion benefit.

Other say if you roll with a heavy weight, say good bye to your Shoulder Rotator cuffs.

Out

 

[gymtime]

There's an assumption that rolling your shoulders at the top of a shrug will hit the trap more completely. This is false, for the trap's only involvment in that movement is up and down. The back-to-forward movement is done by the rotator cuffs, and delts to a lesser extent.

Rolling is basically an unnecessary strain on the lower shoulders that provides little or no stimulation toward muscle building.