Rate this routine/cycle guys....tell me what you think

[TRAVELJOCKEY]

Ok guys tell me what you think, I have it figured out and want to start monday

Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - /Sus Cycle:
Deca-500mg a week for 10 weeks (400 mg the first two weeks)
Sustanon-750mg a week for 12 weeks (500mg the first two weeks)

Take the shots on mondays and Thursdays, when I wake up. I'll take them in the delts and quads.

Nolvadex 20mg EOD all 12 weeks

PCT - post cycle therapy - - HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - immediately afterwards, armidex immediately afterwards, dermacrine sustain starting week 11, and then 3 weeks of clomid 20 days after end of cycle.

Execise Routine- One hour in the gym every other day, abs twice a week.
Day 1- Chest, Day 2- Off, Day 3- Back, Day 4- Off, Day 5- Shoulders Day 6- Off, Day 7- Arms, Day 8- Off, Day 9- Legs

Hopefully get 8 hours of sleep a day....at least that hopefully.

Diet-
4000 calories a day.
Protien- 350 grams/ 1540 calories
Fats- 72 grams/720 calories
Complex carbs- 435 grams/1728 calories

Supplements-I will take two protien shakes a day one before the gym and one afterwards. Optimum whey before and then Muscle Milk mixed with Dried egg white protien powder afterwards. (<---sounds freaky might change it up)

Muscletech's Aplodan
Banner Amino Acid

Vitamins-
GNC Vitapak
Fish Oil
Milk Thistle
Flax seed Oil


Also do you guys think it is stupid to take HCG during week 4 and 8 also, to keep some life in my balls?

 

[nzrodney]

Sust is better delivered EOD or even ED for optimal results.

 

[TRAVELJOCKEY]

Sust is better delivered EOD or even ED for optimal results.

I heard that can lead to massive hormonal imblances. Although in the past I did go Mon/wed/Friday and then Monday/tuesday/thurs/friday for two diff cycles.

How do you think I should space it out, the deca/sus??

 

[xrsist]

stick to an even amount of gear thruout the cycle bro unless you only have enough to run what you have typed above. use an AI instead of nolva EOD

 

[TRAVELJOCKEY]

stick to an even amount of gear thruout the cycle bro unless you only have enough to run what you have typed above. use an aromatase inhibitor instead of Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - EOD

I have enough for an even ammount...My plan was to stick to 750mg a week for 12 weeks of sus and 500mg of Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - a week for 10 weeks.

Good to go onthe tamoxifen, I just got it today so I guess i'm set and I will use it.

Thanks for responding dude...nice to know there are people on these boards trying to help others out with answers to questions.

 

[Maxx Out]

Ok guys tell me what you think, I have it figured out and want to start monday

Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - /Sus Cycle:
Deca-500mg a week for 10 weeks (400 mg the first two weeks)
Sustanon-750mg a week for 12 weeks (500mg the first two weeks)

Take the shots on mondays and Thursdays, when I wake up. I'll take them in the delts and quads.

Nolvadex 20mg EOD all 12 weeks

PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - immediately afterwards, armidex immediately afterwards, dermacrine sustain starting week 11, and then 3 weeks of clomid 20 days after end of cycle.

Execise Routine- One hour in the gym every other day, abs twice a week.
Day 1- Chest, Day 2- Off, Day 3- Back, Day 4- Off, Day 5- Shoulders Day 6- Off, Day 7- Arms, Day 8- Off, Day 9- Legs

Hopefully get 8 hours of sleep a day....at least that hopefully.

Diet-
4000 calories a day.
Protien- 350 grams/ 1540 calories
Fats- 72 grams/720 calories
Complex carbs- 435 grams/1728 calories

Supplements-I will take two protien shakes a day one before the gym and one afterwards. Optimum whey before and then Muscle Milk mixed with Dried egg white protien powder afterwards. (<---sounds freaky might change it up)

Muscletech's Aplodan
Banner Amino Acid

Vitamins-
GNC Vitapak
Fish Oil
Milk Thistle
Flax seed Oil


Also do you guys think it is stupid to take HCG during week 4 and 8 also, to keep some life in my balls?

What are your stats for 4000 cals/day?

 

[needtogetaas]

Sustanon is better delivered EOD or even ED for optimal results.

I feel the same

 

[holy ghost]

yup 3x a week for me ! that means 975mg

 

[needtogetaas]

pct looks good though.might want to run the hcg during cycle though.

 

[TRAVELJOCKEY]

I feel the same

So you think I should stick it every Monday/Wed/Friday?

Should I split the HCG and deca to be taken on those days also?

 

[TRAVELJOCKEY]

pct looks good though.might want to run the hcg during cycle though.

Deffinately will..thanks.

I only have HCG in 500iu amps so I can tke it once a week say on a monday or wednesday correct?? To space out the sticks

 

[nzrodney]

So you think I should stick it every Monday/Wed/Friday?

Should I split the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - to be taken on those days also?

Sust if 250mg/ml go Mon Wed Fri = 1ml each day = 750 PW
Deca can be one shoot or if preferreed divided into 2 inj
HCG use 100iu ED starting 3 days after your first AAS dose.. Drop the HCG a week before last AAS shot to allow to clear the system. This will allow for an even drop in hormone levels, while iniating LH & FSH production from the pituitary, making for a seamless recevery. There is also some who prefer one 500iu dose per week. Do not use in PCT after the cycle. Continue with your normal PCT program.

 

[instant.muscle]

Sustanon is better delivered EOD or even ED for optimal results.

false, monday thursday is perfect

 

[beenieman]

Sustanon is better delivered EOD or even ED for optimal results.

I agree. I shot e3d on my last run AND 2x a week on Monday and Thursday ( I had to switch to 2x/week due to my work schedule) and got better results from e3d. If you can, shoot every other day...

 

[instant.muscle]

ed with sust is just rediculous, it wasn't the reason it was made, if u shoot monday and thursday instead of everyday there is no difference if ur training or diet is in check, stop relying on the juice so much, sust was made for once a week injections, just because the prop ester has a 3 day half life doesn't mean its wasted after 3 days, its used and then the other esters kick in, plus the half life for prop is 3 days so monday thursday is fine

 

[Nelson Montana]

All pointless. Too much gear. Instead of debating which day to take a shot, reevaluate your goals. The exercise routine is meanigless since no one knows how hard you're training. Get some real supplements.

 

[xrsist]

ed with Sustanon is just rediculous, it wasn't the reason it was made, if u shoot monday and thursday instead of everyday there is no difference if ur training or diet is in check, stop relying on the juice so much, Sustanon was made for once a week injections, just because the testosterone propionate ester has a 3 day half life doesn't mean its wasted after 3 days, its used and then the other esters kick in, plus the half life for testosterone propionate is 3 days so monday thursday is fine

good post bro. k.

 

[TRAVELJOCKEY]

All pointless. Too much gear. Instead of debating which day to take a shot, reevaluate your goals. The exercise routine is meanigless since no one knows how hard you're training. Get some real supplements.

Supplements such as??

 

[Nelson Montana]

Supplements such as??

Muscletechs Aplodan is a total scam. Flax seed oil is estrogenic. So is Milk Thistle and it should not be taken without an anti e. GNC Vita pak is great for grandma but not a bodybuilder.

The Dermacrine is the only smart supp you chose. Look at the ones below. www.proteinfactory.com Read. Learn.

 

[xrsist]

Supplements such as??

agxsports.com is where you will find the best pre workout supp created