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My Training Journal

andalite: doing low volume on the main lifts lets me put 100% effort into them. Doing oly squats after sumo squats are from SaiBoT and not to sound like an ass but he is one of my two main people who I go to for advice, and doing that worked well for his squat so I would like to try it. I cant do front squats after deadlifts because Im physically drained and my back is smoked. 3x8 isnt really high reps and they will be 3 sets with the same weight so they wont be until failure or anthing like that, iv gone up to 12 reps on the front squat before and had no trouble. Same with behind the neck press, never had problems with that. I am doing more sets of deadlifts but my warmups are not listed, so I would do 3-4 warmup sets, then my main set, then a set of 6-8 of deficit deadlifts. You outlined alot of changes and what Iv been doing has given me the best strength gains of my life and these gains have lasted since I started, I have only stalled on military press and straight bar curls. Only things I am changing around are the assistance exercises.

one question I have for you is what would you do for upper back work then? not chinups and not bent over rows, the upright rows were a sub for facepulls.

tblock: how can u say I definitely need more volume on those lifts when I have been PRing them every session?
 
I just re-read what I put and I know I asked for opinions before and then just disagreed with pretty much everything andalite said, I am actually having doubts about some aspects of what I typed up before because of all the little add on exercises I dont really need so I bet I will have changed some stuff by the time I can lift heavy again. But thanks for your input
 
Hey bro good luck on whatever you do. I've found that it's best that you experiment around and see how things work best for you. If it hurts, stop doing it..if you progress, keep doing it. I'm sure when I start my 5x1, people will think that's too little volume...and maybe it is. I don't believe I know anybody that's tried a workout though only lifting singles...so it's still kind of in the shadows with how well progress will be on it. Either way I'm still going to give it a try and see how well it works despite what people say or think. If nobody experimented, nobody would ever know what works best :) All you need to do is listen to your body.
 
andalite: doing low volume on the main lifts lets me put 100% effort into them. Doing oly squats after sumo squats are from SaiBoT and not to sound like an ass but he is one of my two main people who I go to for advice, and doing that worked well for his squat so I would like to try it. I cant do front squats after deadlifts because Im physically drained and my back is smoked. 3x8 isnt really high reps and they will be 3 sets with the same weight so they wont be until failure or anthing like that, iv gone up to 12 reps on the front squat before and had no trouble. Same with behind the neck press, never had problems with that. I am doing more sets of deadlifts but my warmups are not listed, so I would do 3-4 warmup sets, then my main set, then a set of 6-8 of deficit deadlifts. You outlined alot of changes and what Iv been doing has given me the best strength gains of my life and these gains have lasted since I started, I have only stalled on military press and straight bar curls. Only things I am changing around are the assistance exercises.

one question I have for you is what would you do for upper back work then? not chinups and not bent over rows, the upright rows were a sub for facepulls.

tblock: how can u say I definitely need more volume on those lifts when I have been PRing them every session?

Did you not read the thread on not doing front squats for more than 6 reps?

Charles Poliquin:

Abandon the Back Squat?

Q: I've read that some strength coaches have practically abandoned the back squat in favor of the front squat, citing that the front squat almost can't be screwed up and poses less risk to the athlete. What do you think about that? And what do you think is a top front squat?

A: Well, the front squat is more highly correlated with performance in lower body extremity sports than the back squat. In bobsledding, alpine skiing, and speed skating, the front squat can help predict times. So, the front squat is a better predictor lift when it comes to testing.


Why? Because if you cheat in the front squat you'll kill yourself. For example, you can lift more weight in the back squat with some forward leaning. You can't do that in the front squat without hurting yourself.

That said, you can't throw away all your tools. I partly agree with these coaches, but I'll keep the back squat in my toolbox. I use a lot of split squats too. There are over seventy ways to squat; saying you need only one is like saying you only need a hammer to build a house.

The best front squat I've ever seen was by a 165-pound weightlifter who front squatted 534 pounds. This wasn't an American college football version either; this guy was ass down, left a stain on the carpet. The strongest front squatters I've seen are guys doing around 3.3 times body weight.

As for the style of front squat, I prefer the Olympic version rather than arms-crossed style. Now, if the lifter's arms are too big or he lacks flexibility, then he can use straps.


One thing to remember when using front squats is to never do more than six reps per set. This is because your rhomboids tire out isometrically before your squads tire concentrically. You don't want to get to a point where you're squatting with a kyphotic posture. That's when accidents happen.

So if you're going to do sets of six, you're going to do usually between five and ten sets. The guy I mentioned above who front squats 534 (an Olympic silver medalist) would do ten sets of six of front squats in the morning and ten sets of ten of back squats at night!



Bro, you may be PR ing every session, but have you ever thought that maybe you could be pr ing a little higher with more volume?
 
I just re-read what I put and I know I asked for opinions before and then just disagreed with pretty much everything andalite said, I am actually having doubts about some aspects of what I typed up before because of all the little add on exercises I dont really need so I bet I will have changed some stuff by the time I can lift heavy again. But thanks for your input
Thats fine. It's your training. And knowing you're going to disagree with me saves me the time and effort to put my thoughts on paper + your time and effort to refute that I say. It's a win-win situation :)
 
One thing to remember when using front squats is to never do more than six reps per set. This is because your rhomboids tire out isometrically before your squads tire concentrically. You don't want to get to a point where you're squatting with a kyphotic posture. That's when accidents happen.

could you tell me what a kyphotic posture looks like?
 
All it means is that your pelvis is tilted foward so your spine curves. If I go to college I'm going to study kinesiology so I will study all that shit.

ill take a video and see if i am making my spine curv, if i am then ill lower the reps and do a 4x6 instead of 3x8
 
I like your new picture, legs look bigger there than they did in your last one.:D I think your thighs are bigger than mine:(

well thats because i dont fuck around doing overhead squats and shit haha

wierd how my squat is so weak but my quads are pretty big...
 
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