How important is "the pump"?

[bigpokey]

surely u can't compare a warm up pump to the pump u get after a high volume workout, get the fug out of u must be a ratard, personally i like to stay with heavy weights low reps/sets and don't get nearly that pump i did when i tried super sets and high volume but my strength is way better and the gains are much better too... pumps are way overrated especially if you're trainin natural, maybe if you're juiced to the max it doesn't matter but i dont see people that train natural puttin on a lot of size or gettin crazy strength from doin high volume workouts, not gonna happen, im sure they get great pumps tho... my last point would be that i get a max leg pump everytime i stay on the bike over 10 mins and im pretty sure that's not doin shit for my leg size or strength

great question though OP i doubt anybody could prove it one way or the other, from my experience i say huge pumps are not related to strength and/or gains

 

[joe d]

the pump is the pump. weather it is slight after a warmup or it is extreme through the w/o it is the same pump that started at your warmup. if you are carbed up, have 10g creatine in you, using shuttling agents, on aas, your pumps are going to be big. if you go to the gym tired, after not eating for several hours, and your mind is somewhere else, or you have certain medical issues you wont get anything.

what the pump does in short is simple. it gets your muscles ready to work, and it gets them ready to start recovery. to an extent the more you have the better.

im not saying that a pler should change what he does to make sure he gets a big pump. but he is in fact getting one.

 

[ceo]

the pump is the pump. weather it is slight after a warmup or it is extreme through the w/o it is the same pump that started at your warmup. if you are carbed up, have 10g creatine in you, using shuttling agents, on aas, your pumps are going to be big. if you go to the gym tired, after not eating for several hours, and your mind is somewhere else, or you have certain medical issues you wont get anything.

what the pump does in short is simple. it gets your muscles ready to work, and it gets them ready to start recovery. to an extent the more you have the better.

im not saying that a pler should change what he does to make sure he gets a big pump. but he is in fact getting one.

So when Arnold finished his 2.5 hour workouts of 25-40 sets, and had that killer "pump" he always talked about, with muscles so full of blood he could barely scratch his nose with a two hand assisted effort (say he was working arms)...he was just getting his muscles ready to work?????

I don't think the more you have the better either. And I don't believe the more pump you have the better your recovery will be. It takes longer to recover from a high volume workout (which will give you the greater "pump" than a lower volume higher intensity workout.

I think we may just be comparing apples to oranges here though from what it sounds like you think of "the pump".

 

[ExtraMile]

So when Arnold finished his 2.5 hour workouts of 25-40 sets, and had that killer "pump" he always talked about, with muscles so full of blood he could barely scratch his nose with a two hand assisted effort (say he was working arms)...he was just getting his muscles ready to work?????

No, he had a big pump because he had finished his workout and done all the 25+ sets and whatever. I think joe d meant even though he may finish with this pump, the pump would have/should have started with his warmup and just progressively got more pumped throughout the workout. Thats what I got from the post anyway.

 

[ceo]

No, he had a big pump because he had finished his workout and done all the 25+ sets and whatever. I think joe d meant even though he may finish with this pump, the pump would have/should have started with his warmup and just progressively got more pumped throughout the workout. Thats what I got from the post anyway.

Thus the last sentence of my post about comparing apples to oranges.

 

[joe d]

arnold preserved his pump with light weight high rep. thats why it lasted through his entire work out. when you go low volume and heavy you break the pump earlier. i never responded as well to high volume as i did low volume so i usually broke my pump within the first few sets but always before i was done training.

im not comparing different pumps because its all the same pump. but i still stand with my original point (that i probable didnt write out well) that the pump is important. if you warmed up and didnt get any kind of muscle pump you will not get as much out of your workout.

 

[ceo]

I agree that warming up is very important. But, again, I don't think that is what 99% of people would consider "the pump".

 

[joe d]

i agree that warming up is very important. But, again, i don't think that is what 99% of people would consider "the pump".

well you 99% sob's are wrong damnit!!!!!

 

[ceo]

well you 99% sob's are wrong damnit!!!!!

Tell that to Aahhnuuld!

 

[ChangNam]

Thanks for posting this thread. i feel like shit everytime when i not get pump. and some times do i feel like i am doing something wrong. and i want to just finish my work out and go home. i push my self hard but sometimes i get no pump. or i get pump but the pump goes down. strange things anyway. but now after reading all them posts. do i understand it is not that important. but i feel wery good whne i get pumped up. i had to stop my work out some months back. becaue all my body almost dubeled in size whne i was training. this is no joke. i thought that i was going to blow up. and i had to sit down relax. have anyone been experienced that before ??