hard alcohol and CKD ??????????

[slipperypete]

I was looking on this list of things without carbs and it said Gin, rum, whisky, and vodka had no carbs, is this true???? If so I think I can drink a little more and not get knocked out of ketosis. That would rock. well I hope this is true.

 

[ZKaudio]

alcohol will knock you out of ketosis. If you are trying to lose weight... you should not be drinking. If you MUST. Tequila is going to have the smallest effect on blood sugar.

 

[TinyTim]

alcohol will knock you out of ketosis. If you are trying to lose weight... you should not be drinking. If you MUST. Tequila is going to have the smallest effect on blood sugar.

Why?

 

[jerkbox]

alcohol will not knock you out of ketosis...in fact when your body metabolizes alcohol, it send ketones into your bloodstream putting you in ketosis....however, your body will have to first burn through all the alcohol you consumed before it resumes burning fat.

 

[OXANDRIN]

alcohol is converted into acetate in the liver and it is used as a source of energy until its gone. thats why drinking makes you fat because your body can't use carbs,fats,protiens, until the acetate is gone....for the most part

 

[slipperypete]

I just thought maybe it was too good to be true, because if I can have a couple shots and not have to worry about being knocked out of ketosis on the weekend, I wouldn't feel so guilty. Anyway it doesn't really matter too much cause I usually do my carb up on the weekend. I know drinking isn't going to help me loose weight, but fuck I love to go out and drink on weekends, so I have to work around it. So far I have lost 16 lbs. anyway doing this. Haven't lost much muscle at all which is kinda suprising. Well later.

 

[kidvilla]

alcohol and ckd

hey there, i thought i might have something to contribute as i had been on ckd and atkins ketogenic diets in the past.
first of all, the stronger alchohols were my preference ( 151, knob creek) on keto, but beer was my preference on carbo/glycoload because of the state i was in

in ketosis, the problem as mentioned before is alcohol will not knock you out of ketosis, but it WILL sidetrack it a bit. sometimes the bigger problem, ketosis-wise, is everything that comes along for the ride with the drink. i mean, think of it, even cuervo tequila has some sugars in there either as a result of the alcohol, or in the case of other drinks, added on for flavoring. and forget about margaritas and mudslides

in ketosis, to make an extreme example, you could theoretically consume mexican everclear (96% alcohol) and since you only need a half a shotglass to get kaplotzed, i can assure you your time out of ketosis (due to alcohol-related metabolism) will probably be shorter than the time you will spend drunk.

in glycoload (the weekend when you compensate for ketosis in ckd or bodyopus diets) your intention is to pack on the carbos and so you again dont' want too much interference with alcohol, so instead, to get the least alcohol interference to sugar compensation, try beer ...

but alcohol has other problems here:
first, it will negatively affect your performance for days to come, if weights sucked while on ckd, they will suck worse afterwards.

if you are consuming it during your "glycoload" phase, i can't explain it scientifically, but everyone i know has attested that they don't get the same load after even a few drinks as opposed to not touching the stuff. in other words, you don't supercompensate as well on it, and that will mean you next week will really suck

put those two together, and that's not nice...
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but if you must feel the need to drink (and i loves me some alkyhol sometimes too) i made this compromise with myself ...

1. drink the strongest stuff you can get while on ketosis, but while on glycoload, drink the weakest stuff. the logic here is in ketosis, you don't want to knock yourself out of it too long, but in glycoload, you may as well get some sugar in the deal (and weak alcoholic drinks are usually notoriously full of sugar).

2. if in glycoload, give yourself an extra day to compensate, it really helps, and if you're willing to screw your workout a little, you really need to give yourself a chance to recover.

 

[serge]

Re: alcohol and ckd

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if you are consuming it during your "glycoload" phase, i can't explain it scientifically, but everyone i know has attested that they don't get the same load after even a few drinks as opposed to not touching the stuff. in other words, you don't supercompensate as well on it, and that will mean you next week will really suck

DEHYDRATION IS THE REASON, its advocated to avoid all caffeene and anything else that will dehydrate you during your glycogen loading, including ECA's

 

[ZKaudio]

whenever I drink, the next morning my ketostix are indicative of me NOT being in ketosis. The only exception to this was when I drank tequila... as opposed to vodka/rum... and i was still in light ketosis in teh morning. w/e

 

[toilet hamster]

GHB

I had this same problem with avoiding alcohol. Get some GHB, it will still make you feel drunk, it has almost 0% toxicity on the liver and it releases growth hormone which burns fat and builds muscle.