Going for something a little different...

[aeb28]

really? well you have never ran a cycle before and your going to tell me that anavar is useless as a 6 week cycle? really? thats weird because it didn't show useless on me or so many others... its not going to put on 10-15 lbs. but for you to say its useless, with absolutely no experience whatsoever is pretty ridiculous... good luck to you

ok allow me to rephrase. "FROM WHAT I READ" I believe was my direct quote. I am going off of many different experiences I have read. I HAVE READ many different accounts of anavar taking at least 6 weeks to hit, and HAVE READ guys get flamed out for doing oral-only cycles due to the fact that the risks potentially outweigh the gains and benefits.


I am looking for constructive criticism and experience with similar goals. At no point was it my intention to express personal opinion on what I should/shouldnt do, otherwise I wouldnt be here. If you are telling me that you disagree with the fact that an anavar only 6 week cycle is not beneficial, then I legitimately appreciate your input. Again its my first cycle and im still learning

 

[aeb28]

rustilldown, texas monster, moya thats what I was looking for. Obviously everyone is a little different but I see a lot of options for basic cycle outlines, those combined pretty much answered my question

 

[Nelson Montana]

I wouldn't follow Texasmonster's advice. Although I agree diet is key and you don't need long cycles, 80 mgs of orals a day for 6 weeks is not a healthy choice. He may have done all right but don't for a minute think there are no potential side effects to that.

Same goes for your friend who had great results. A lot of people react badly to EQ. You want a good first cycle without much weight gain? Do 200 mgs of Primo a week and 10 mgs of dbol a day for a month. People will tell you it's a waste, but if you train hard and never took anything before, you will notice a difference. Too many people want that first cycle to rock their world. You have plenty of time to do more later on.

 

[Straightshot]

Ok, so i'm fairly new here, and to be honest I havent even ran a cycle yet so this is just an option for you to look into as my goals are similar to yours. But look into the sarms triple stack, solid gains, benifits for endurance. And your not going to get huge from what I have READ you can put on up to 7 pounds dry rock solid muscle and increase in endurance.

 

[stevesmi]

make sure you get legit var. it makes all the difference.

var is still a male hormone, it has a reputation for being weak cause it doesn't blow you up with aromatization like dbol or anadrol. but if you are an experienced lifter you will be amazed at the strength gains on it. for a 140 pound newb who runs var vs. dbol with no AI they are gonna not understand why the var isn't putting weight on them and dbol puts on 20 pounds of water weight on them. so that is why var has that type of reputation on the internet IMHO

 

[Texas Monster]

Good Point that 80mg of orals for 6 weeks may not be the healthiest of choice but It is still an option for someone who may not want to start pinning and is willing to take a risk with their blood panels.

The main point he should be getting is that the cycle needs to be light, and short.

 

[dylangemelli]

you can make gains that you are wanting through a cycle like this...

1-6 anavar 60 mg a day first four weeks, 80 mg last 2 weeks
1-6 proviron 50-75 mg day
1-6 n2guard
1-6 hcgenerate
1-6 lipid stabil
1-10 need2slin
1-10 creatine nitrate
3-10 forma stanzol

pct
7-10 clomid 25/25/25/25
7-10 unleashed/post cycle combo
7-10 lean xtreme
7-10 daa powerchews

 

[moya]

make sure you get legit var. it makes all the difference.

var is still a male hormone, it has a reputation for being weak cause it doesn't blow you up with aromatization like dbol or anadrol. but if you are an experienced lifter you will be amazed at the strength gains on it. for a 140 pound newb who runs var vs. dbol with no AI they are gonna not understand why the var isn't putting weight on them and dbol puts on 20 pounds of water weight on them. so that is why var has that type of reputation on the internet IMHO

im as an experienced LIFTER as much as anyone here... imo the strength gains from var are weak for me...
this is coming from an american top 20, 148 class raw powerlifter....

imo var is useless for strength and is more suited for cosmetic use... and really just for a finishing touch on a ready physique....

 

[dylangemelli]

i had a really good strength increase on anavar... everyone reacts to things differently though so until you have tried it, its hard to say...

 

[moya]

^can i ask what other orals you have taken bro to compare to?...

i would say the ONLY oral that gives me less strength is proviron...
what does var give you better strength than? im not saying it dosnt give any strength, but its definately noting to speak of....