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Destined to suck...log

Wish you lots of success man,

#1 Don't worry about the scale.. not from day to day. Water weight can give you a 1.7 pound swing over five days regardless of diet. Too many factors play into where that needle hits. Use bf% (calipered), tape measure at the waist, update photos and scale last and least. Most important is that in your mind you know u f***d it up in the gym and and stuck to your diet.

#2 If you've been eating a lot of calories until recently... dropping to 2100 straight might be tough on your lbm. Consider a slightly more gradual approach to that number. You might find you're losing a lot at say 2750 and making forward progress in the gym (or not and cut a couple hundred cals..). strength gains at 2100 can get tough in a hurry.


ShortFuse said:
Hrm, so I intended to do cardio this morning before work, but it was just too damn cold at 7:30 in the morning...so I worked and then came home jogged to the gym (.5 miles), finished the workout from yesterday (barbell curls, weighted dips, tricep pulldowns), did the elliptical for 20 minutes and jogged back home...

I actually weighed 205.8 today...which is 0.7 lbs higher than what I weighed two days ago, and 1.7 lbs heaver than I weighed 5 days ago...Odd, maybe I need some changes in the diet or it is lbm gain (since I did improve on the 5x5)..I guess that's where bf measurements come in. I'm going to continue my diet and stick to my cardio routines for a few more days and see what happens. Today's food:

Breakfast: 100% whey, 5 egg whites, ANPB and a splash of soy protein with my whey
2: Planters peanuts
3: 2 servings chicken, carrots
4: 100% whey
5: (1 hour pre workout) 1.5 serving chicken, 1/2 can green beans
6: (immediately following workout) splash of soy in 100% whey with Jiff pb (ran out of anpb) shake
7: (45 minutes after workout) 1.5 serving whole wheat pasta with a can of 99% fat free chicken (only ingredients are chicken, water, and salt)

and I plan to have 2 servings cottage cheese and another serving of whey before bed

This will put me at 2149 calories, 66 fat, 106 carb, 286 protein (macros: 29/16/55)

Considering my carbs came from fat free cottage cheese, whole wheat pasta, and green beans primarily...I'd say these are ok?

Anyways, give me some feedback please...if my body weight stays the same/gains and I am getting stronger...I suppose I will maintain this diet as long as I am improving on the 5x5 as scheduled...which would be awesome...

I am probably still enough of a beginner (just don't look at the amount of years I've spent in the gym haha) that I may be able to gain mass and lose fat at the same time.

Also, who do I talk to about changing my thread title since you guys don't like it :)
 
So I took yesterday off from cardio/training to prepare for the big 5x5 day today... Diet consisted of 2180 calories, macros were 41%fat/9%carb/50prot...Pretty good I think...I ate mad chicken yesterday because I burned my breakfast really badly (6 eggs and 2 servings honey ham)..so I ended up eating a chicken breast on my drive to school lol

Slept in late today, and had a bowl of quaker low sugar oatmeal with 2 tablespoons of Jiff (need to buy anpb today), and whey prot... Went to the gym an hour later and did my workout

Squat: 185x5
Bench: 210x5
Row: 150x5 (damn these were unusually hard)

I think the rows were hard because I did the accessory exercises (bicep/tricep) 2 days ago, instead of three and my arms were still sore.

PWO consisted of 100% whey, 1 cup fat free milk, 1/2 cup oats, 2 tablespoons jiff (546 cal, 20g/45g/45g fat/carb/prot)...

I'll be going out to dinner in about 30 minutes, but I plan to just order chicken salad and vegetables...no pasta for me!

Oh and I was back down to 204.6 so...I had a funny feeling it would even out over the next few days. I have to wonder if all the sodium in my diet is causing me to retain water. When I first started this diet I tried to be sodium conscious but it became nearly impossible as almost everything has high amounts of sodium, low sodium tuna included...lol. At least most of my nuts are unsalted and roasted = 0 sodium
 
ShortFuse said:
At least most of my nuts are unsalted and roasted

That sounds funny. Im a fucking goofball.

On a serious note I got the same info from these guys but I got it too late I was already 3 weeks about into a cutting diet. I def. Lost some precious muscle and should have done it more gradually. But I do seem leaner. Some of my core lift are down but only slightly. That could also be because I lift AFTER I do my cardio. I do cardio 2-3days a week for about 20mins. I dont wanna over do it cuz I have a fast paced job where I sweat like a virgin on prom night. Keep your eye on the prize bro and youll hit your mark.
 
Ramcononer said:
That sounds funny. Im a fucking goofball.

On a serious note I got the same info from these guys but I got it too late I was already 3 weeks about into a cutting diet. I def. Lost some precious muscle and should have done it more gradually. But I do seem leaner. Some of my core lift are down but only slightly. That could also be because I lift AFTER I do my cardio. I do cardio 2-3days a week for about 20mins. I dont wanna over do it cuz I have a fast paced job where I sweat like a virgin on prom night. Keep your eye on the prize bro and youll hit your mark.
I realize you prolly already know this, but it bears repeating, for those that don't.
Cardio should be done post lifting. The only cardio that shold be done before lifting should be of a warmup nature.
 
HiDnGoD said:
I realize you prolly already know this, but it bears repeating, for those that don't.
Cardio should be done post lifting. The only cardio that shold be done before lifting should be of a warmup nature.

I usually jog to the gym, but it is only about 1/2 a mile and serves as a good warm up before stretching to squat. Most of the time I don't even put cardio on 5x5 days...or the day before the two big squat days.

As for decreasing my calories, I've already been on this diet for a while so I'm not going to increase now. I also didn't count calories before it so I wouldn't know what I was at. All of my lifts are still going up in the 5x5, so I must not be at much of a deficit...maybe I am even over my maintainence...

On a side note, I have now cut the STUPID CARROTS from my diet...I always thought "hey carrots are good for you" and it turns out they are full of sugar...so I was taking in an extra 18-27g of sugar each day! Oh well, no more carrots for me.
 
Last few days I have upped my complex carbs, rolled oats for breakfast, pre workout and post workout...tuna once to twice a day, chicken breast or two or three a day, broccoli, pb, ON gold standard whey, cottage cheese...etc

I've been about 2200 calories each day...pretty clean, except for last night. The girlfriend and I are pretty low key, ended up going to Publix looking for some food and got fried chicken fingers, and made mac and cheese with wheat pasta and had a salad...I felt so sick afterwards, I am never eating fried food again...

So as punishment I did empty stomach cardio this morning. Woke up a little later than I wanted to, which sucked cuz I felt REALLY REALLY tired because of it, popped 2 Trex, drank some green tea and off to the gym I go. Put the treadmill up to a incline of 9.0, warmed up at 4.0mph for 10 minutes, then did 1 minute at 6.0 and 2 minutes at 3.5...for the next 25 minutes. Did 2.5 miles in 35 minutes at the 9.0 incline and burned 550 calories...

My last interval I bumped it up to 8.0mph and ran the minute, wow...I was literally going to die if I had gone past the one minute mark. Cooled down, drove home and needed energy BAD...quickest thing I could grab was a Boost high protein...then fell on my bed under the fan for 10 minutes drinking water haha

Now I am sitting here eating a bowl of oats and deciding what kind of protein I'm going to eat besides some Whey...
 
OH, and the 5x5 went good this week...I'm fed up with my weights, so I got mad at the fucking bar

I was doing deads, and didn't know where I would end up, my 5x5 schedule said 190x5...but I did 185x5, bumped it to 205x5 and did 7 reps...so next week I'll go for 225x5 as my last set

Squat I did 190x3 all the way down...way harder than it should be. Bench I got 215x3...and it wasn't very hard so 215x5 should be attainable on Saturday. Oh, and I went for 190x5 without a spotter on incline bench and the 4th rep was extremely hard so I didn't go for a fifth. I waited a few minutes, got a spotter and went for 5 again, I couldn't even do the 4th rep this time. I guess I just didn't have it in me...now the question is, go for 190 again next week or push to 195...I guess I'll decide when the time comes :)
 
Hit a wall on all lifts today...heh

Squat: 190x3 (supposed to be 5)
Bench: 215x3 (supposed to be 5)
Row: 145x4 (supposed to be 150x5)

I was kinda tired, didn't have my music, and my legs were still tired and sore from the incline treadmill fun...I only ate 1800 calories yesterday, 65 fat/75carb/214pro...I guess I always knew this was coming, since I am trying to cut. But all is well, I will try to maintain these weights and increase my cardio frequency a bit, as well as keep my calories around the 1800 mark. I might as well blast myself if I'm not going to get any stronger :fistfullo .. I have at least 23 more days of cutting...which is when my cruise is, but it is likely I will continue following the cruise.

Probably playing some basketball this afternoon, so that should burn a few calories :fistfullo :fistfullo :fistfullo
 
You should definitely at least consider rolling back the weights slightly so u can complete the required amount..... 5 reps of a 100 pounds is more weight moved than 3 of 110, etc.

I personally am going through the effects of cutting as well and I hate it... enjoy the cruise and get back to bulking. And no more eating less than maintenance calories man.
 
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