Bodybuilders Are Stronger Than Powerlifters!

[XAX]

How about the neural aspect??

The ability to 'turn on your muscles' plays a big role when discussing strength issues. This is the reason why most bodybuilders cant match the strength of a powerlifter. They don't develop this ability, because most of them trains with slow and a high number of reps .

So, your statement about Ed Coan and Mr. O is basically wrong.

Yes, size is important, but the neural factor is THE most important aspect of strength.

Greater force output in unit of time?

Ehhh, how much exactly do you know about powerlifting and their methods of training. Most powerlifters that I know of spend most of their time with the 3 big lifts or variants of and a lot of other compound movements as well, often training the core lifts 2-3 times a week.

That equals a shit load of pounds being moved each week, and a greater force output, wouldn't you say??

 

[bignate73]

How about the neural aspect??

Yes, size is important, but the neural factor is THE most important aspect of strength.

brings a tear to my eye......

music to my ears, preach on brotha XAX!

im with ya.

 

[Belial]

Yep! Thank you belial from using swears! Only uneducated thugs use swears. As intelligent people we talk science!

hey you are smart! Atleast you have realised that you cant argue with me on some topics as i would beat you.

Great. Better say nothing than to say something dumb.

yep, it is worthless to discuss this issue, as i said something that cant easily be beaten or beaten at all.

ROFL


You've gotten your ass handed to you after each and every post, have contributed absolutely nothing to this forum, and still you have the gall to pretend you're intelligent?

 

[Belial]

And XAX- good post.

 

[bignate73]

and still you have the gall to pretend you're intelligent?

LOL....er.....(whew they havent caught on to me).....

 

[gymtime]

Yep! Thank you belial from using swears! Only uneducated thugs use swears. As intelligent people we talk science!

Yeah!!!!

 

[SSAlexSS]

ROFL


You've gotten your ass handed to you after each and every post, have contributed absolutely nothing to this forum, and still you have the gall to pretend you're intelligent?

My posts are much better than some elses posts! Atleast I dont post each week
"What is the best exercise for biceps" kinda poll.

Dumb posts never get attention......

note to myself *lower my iq and curiousity by about 50. no make it 100 points*

 

[mattcanning99]

Sure 225 pounds is less than 500 pounds... BUT. 225 * 16 = 3600 pounds lifted. 500 x4 = 2000 pounds.

not trying to flame here, but, as GymTime pointed out, it doesnt work like that. say i were to squat 100 lbs 25 times = 2500 lbs, but that is not more than a powerlifter squating 500 lbs 4 times = 2000 lbs.

reason being this (me being a math major and all): projected one rep maxes arent based on linear graphs, or convenient little formulas, meaning that just cause a person can bench say, 100 lbs 10 reps, does not mean they can bench 1000 lbs once, and if they bench 100 lbs 11 times, it certainly wouldnt mean they are stronger than someone with a 1000 lbs bench press.

back to math again, if you were to make a graph of how much weight a person could bench and how many times they could bench it, it would not make a straight line, the number of reps would get lower and lower as the weight got higher, and therefore higher weight for a few reps, ie, powerlifters, are stronger, generally.

now ronnie coleman, and greg kovacs are probably better than some powerlifters, in fact, i would say their totals are probably both over 2000, which is very impressive, but again, bodybuilders are not stronger, generally.

i tried looking on my computer for the one rep max table i have, but couldnt find it (i will try to post later). this is what it looks like below, say a person could bench press 100 lbs once:

1RM = 100
8RM = 78.8 lbs
12RM = 72.2 lbs
20RM = 60 lbs

so that person could bench press 60 lbs 20 times = 1200 lbs, but obviously im weaker than someone with a 1000 lbs bench press.

in fact, i dont even have to say all that, lol, POWERLIFTERS ARE STRONGER. period.

matt

 

[mattcanning99]

Relationships between reps and % maximum load for one rep maximum (rm). The
maximum strength zone is 1 - 6 reps, and bodybuilding 6 - 12. Strength / Endurance 12
reps or more.

Repetitions Coefficient1 100
2 95.5
3 91.7
4 88.5
5 85.7
6 83.2
7 80.9
8 78.8
9 76.9
10 75.2
11 73.6
12 72.1
13 70.6
14 69.2
15 67.8
16 66.5
17 65.3
18 64.1
19 63.0
20 61.9

HOW TO USE THE CHART:

If you bench press 135 * 12...divide 135 by the coefficient of 12 (0.721) and get 187.2...meaning your
one rep max for bench press is 187.2 pounds roughly

If you arm curl 100 lbs once, then to find out what you should do for sets of 8 to failure, multiply 100 by
the coefficient for 8 (0.788), to find that you should be able to arm curl 78.8 pounds 8 times to failure.

using this chart, we see that

225 * 0.665 (coefficient of 16 reps) = 338 lbs one rep max
500 * 0.885 (coefficient of 4 reps) = 565 lbs one rep max

so it's obvious your logic is flawed...

 

[XAX]

Well, Ronnie Coleman was also a powerlifter in his early years, so that would explain his freaky strength(for a bodybuilder )

The bottomline is:

- Powerlifters are stronger because they train for strength.

- Bodybuilders looks better, because they train for mass and spend time at dieting.

btw thanx guys for your support...