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Bodybuilders Are Stronger Than Powerlifters!

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endpoint said:
the difference is he lifts more weights than you and is 50 times stronger than you ever will be


Well... Future isnt something for us to see!
 
endpoint said:
PS i just finished a work out.

Maximum rest time 1 minute and 5 seconds average res

t time 45 seconds.....minimum rest time 17 seconds


Great you dont know what maximum intensity set is all about if you recovered in 1m 45 seconds.

Intensity sets may require up to 5 minutes....
 
72 seconds at 45%-60 percent of your 1 rep max...
or 8 seconds at 100% of your 1 rep max.

its like compairing walking for 1 hour...compaired to walking for 20 mins carrying 100kg back pack

well see in the future how much your pump and pose beach muscles can do. flex for me big boy.
so what some of us are fat. I dont give a shit how i look.

anyway back to the point;

http://asp.elitefts.com/images/upload/qa/Chuck V dead.jpg

here is a man who can squat 1000 pounds(yes i know that is a dead lift). look at the size of him. is he bigger than ronny? no he isnt. but shit loads stronger. he weights in at 220 pounds. id like to see you do that. or anyone (including your bodybuilder idols) do that at that weight.....and train the same way a bodybuilder does. Do you think he works out the way you do......i dont think so.
if he did he would probably be deadlifting 500lbs by now
 
this is getting boring
i said 1 minute and 5 SECONDS not 45

i dont give a crap about your "maximum intensity" shit.

it doenst help me in anyway.

increase your fitness. you must be out of shape
 
endpoint said:
72 seconds at 45%-60 percent of your 1 rep max...
or 8 seconds at 100% of your 1 rep max.

its like compairing walking for 1 hour...compaired to walking for 20 mins carrying 100kg back pack

well see in the future how much your pump and pose beach muscles can do. flex for me big boy.
so what some of us are fat. I dont give a shit how i look.

anyway back to the point;

http://asp.elitefts.com/images/upload/qa/Chuck V dead.jpg

here is a man who can squat 1000 pounds(yes i know that is a dead lift). look at the size of him. is he bigger than ronny? no he isnt. but shit loads stronger. he weights in at 220 pounds. id like to see you do that. or anyone (including your bodybuilder idols) do that at that weight.....and train the same way a bodybuilder does. Do you think he works out the way you do......i dont think so.
if he did he would probably be deadlifting 500lbs by now

You dont care how you look?

Well, powerlifters look just like fat and ugly bastards to normal people (about all 99% of them).

For example some lazy fucks call me fat, and i am at average bodyfat... not ripped but ok.. Hey they are getting all thoise beer bellies, but becasue they are 11 pounds soaking wet they still manage to keep the thin look. I never managed that with muscles above their levels by about 40 pounds. Atleast i have ABS! Shit dont you see curves in my chest, my shoulders are sticking out further than ron jeremy's dick and my traps are like mountains! NOO! They just look at my bloated face and presume that I am fat. (My fucking face has a nasty tendency to blow up when I go over 8-10% bodyfat.)

It must be sucky for powerlifters! And who cares how much you bench! Noone see that yiu bench 60000 pounds, all they see is this .... well.,... lets leave it at that.


this post was not meant to be offencive in any way!
 
I can't BELIEVE this. Alex, SHUT THE HELL UP. People have been calling you a moron who needs to shut his hole and listen since you were getting flamed at about.com over a year ago. And you haven't learned jack shit since then; the days when you were bragging how kids in your class used to call you "Mr. Olympia" and make you do splits between chairs.

What the hell? Do you ride the short bus to school, boy? Did you parents drop you on your head when you were little? Is there something in the water up there, like, I don't know, fucking retard serum?

Reading a million articles and coming away with NOTHING except odd tidbits of information ("Intensity sets may require up to 5 minutes...."), and amazing feats of analysis like that complete and utter bullsh*t that you started this thread with... now THAT is just sad.

Look, if you post a fallacious argument, fine. But at least have a little bit of humility and know when you're outclassed.

Do you even lift? Or just read shit, let it bounce around in that lump of gray goo you call a brain, then spit it back out intact (albeit jumbled beyond recognition).









I'm done.

Sorry.
 
RE:

Body builders are most definately not week, Usually Power Lifters are stronger but not much

I think that people think bodybuilders are weaker is because they train to 'look good' and have yummy muscles but powerlifters (as far as I know) dont realy eat as healthy and worry too much about how they look they worry more about how strong they are.

Its two totaly different types of sport, like soccer and rugby and people shouldnt assume bodybuilders are just steroid junkies but unfortunately thats how bodybuilders have been stereotyped for ages now.
 
There are a few scientific differences in Bodybuilders and Powerlifters: Strength and Power Training: Physiological Mechanisms of Adaptation. Exercise and Sport Science Reviews, American College of Sports Medicine Series. 24: 363-398, 1996.:

*Bodybuilders have a higher ratio of oxidative enzymes in Type IIa fibers over Type IIb fibers.
*Bodybuilders have a higher capillary density.Believed to be due to the higher levels of lactate build-up in training.
*Bodybuilders have a greater lifting capacity when working at a raised lactate level.

Observing bodybuilders at my gym, They work with lighter weight and higher reps to failure, it seems they are conditioning more their Type I fibers (type II fibers are 20% larger than type I fibers, hence give best reponse to hypertrophy)over their Type II fibers fo hypertrophy, as we know slow-twitch fibers are the first muscle fibers to be recruited in movements that demand small force, and the fast-twitch fibers are increasingly recruited by increased force demands, there is also evidence that type II fibers can be activated without activating type I fibers by heavy loads. Because the majority of heavy training results in hypertrophy of the type II fibers, powerlifters have a larger portion of hypertrophy in the type II area than when compared to body builders (in fact, powerlifters have very beautiful muscles, many of them just do not take very good care of their bodies). The point of any training regimen should include:

1. Resistance training
2. Flexibility
3. Cardiovascular fitness
4. Good nutrition
 
SSAlex started this by using simple mechanical energy expenditure equations ( the kind you find in physics 101 textbooks) to compare energy output using the human body. This is erronious logic. Such formuale cannot be applied to the body.
 
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