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ASU 2005 Log

The Shadow said:
..thats was saccasm...all meals should NOT be balanced...

ex - no fat postworkout



ok - im done


good luck

opps! I missed the post workout meal .. thats why it's called post workout meal, (it's special) not like any other meals

Thank you for your concern and everyone else :)
I really truely appreciate that.. But I think I'ts time for me this year to proof to myself that I can do it on my own

Thanx again :heart:
 
ASU said:
Been training for 2.5 years now..
I maybe burning lbm and Im willing to risk that ..as long as I lose the body fat that I have gained recnently..
I can re-build it .. even after I screw up my metabolism
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Why the heck would you want to do this?
 
ASU said:
opps! I missed the post workout meal .. thats why it's called post workout meal, (it's special) not like any other meals

Thank you for your concern and everyone else :)
I really truely appreciate that.. But I think I'ts time for me this year to proof to myself that I can do it on my own

Thanx again :heart:


Post workout meal IS different, & it's VERY important........read this:

Post Workout Supplementation by Curt Pedersen
Post-workout nutrition is extremely important for all athletes. Consuming the proper nutrients after a workout can significantly help to reduce recovery time between workouts and possibly allow for greater gains to be made in the weight room.

To determine what type of food makes the best post-workout meal, researchers performed a test using three meals all with different macronutrient combinations. The meals used were a protein only meal, and carbohydrate only meal, and a protein and carbohydrate meal. A water only meal was also used as a control. Results from the study are discussed in detail in this article.

Study Methods: Subjects for the study were 9 males that had been lifting weights for at least one year.

On separate occasions, each subject consumed a specific meal immediately and two hours following a strength training workout.
The meals consumed were a protein only meal, a carbohydrate only meal, and protein and carbohydrate meal, or a water only meal.
Immediately and for the following eight hours, each subject also had blood taken to measure various hormones including blood lactate, blood glucose, blood insulin, growth hormone, and testosterone.
Results:

The carbohydrate and carbohydrate/protein meal produced the greatest increase in blood glucose and insulin levels immediately following exercise. These meals also produced the greatest increase in growth hormone and decrease in blood testosterone when consumed immediately following exercise.

The application that can be drawn from these results is that carbohydrate or carbohydrate and protein meals are the most anabolic types of meals that can be consumed following a workout. The reasons for this are the decrease in testosterone levels and increase in growth hormone levels that occurred after each meal was consumed. The researchers of this study found that the decrease in testosterone was due to an increase in testosterone clearance in the blood, which indicates that muscle cells were using this testosterone to stimulate muscle resynthesis and growth. The increase in growth hormone may also contribute to an increased anabolic environment.

In summation, athletes should be always be certain to consume a post-workout meal that contains both carbohydrate and proteins. This meal should also be in liquid form since the body more easily absorbs liquids than solid foods. When determining what types of carbohydrate and protein powders to use, a maltodextrin based carbohydrate and whey protein powder make excellent choices. The reasoning for this is that both of these foods create large increases in blood insulin, which may further contribute to a more anabolic environment for the athlete.

Source: Chandler RM, Byrne HK, Patterson G, Ivy JL. Dietary supplements affect the anabolic hormones after weight-training exercise. Journal of Applied Physiology 76(2): 839-845, 1994.


Incase you missed something:

IT IS PROVEN THAT YOU NEED A PWO MEAL CONSISTING OF CARBS & PROTEIN - NO FAT. IT IS BEST TO HAVE A PROTEIN SHAKE (IT ABSORBS FASTER)

I understand you 'know' what your doing, but is you listen to others suggestions (that are PROVEN to work) you will get better results that LAST!!!!

I'm not trying to piss you off..........I'm just stating that the people on this board KNOW what they are talking about, they have tried to help you, it's up to you to do want you want. Good luck.
 
ASU said:
I guess its a mental thing..

Ok... question for you

What is so important right now that shedding these few lbs has to be done this way. Why would you want to lose hard earned lbm and sacrifice messing with thyroid production or metabolism?
 
Frisky said:
Ok... question for you

What is so important right now that shedding these few lbs has to be done this way. Why would you want to lose hard earned lbm and sacrifice messing with thyroid production or metabolism?

Why am I messing up with my thyroid?
I will be getting my thyroid checked next month with Insulin and other blood test due to my monthly period

You guys don't know how much green veggies I eat with my meals now :p
 
ASU said:
Why am I messing up with my thyroid?
I will be getting my thyroid checked next month with Insulin and other blood test due to my monthly period

You guys don't know how much green veggies I eat with my meals now :p

Was it not mentioned that you have thyroid problems... if not, sorry maybe I am confusing you with someone else...

Also read you want to keep your carbs at 13%.. that is really low. If this doesn't include your green veggies.. why not add the totals in so that when we are looking at your diet we don't assume you are taking in to little ;)
 
Frisky said:
Was it not mentioned that you have thyroid problems... if not, sorry maybe I am confusing you with someone else...

Also read you want to keep your carbs at 13%.. that is really low. If this doesn't include your green veggies.. why not add the totals in so that when we are looking at your diet we don't assume you are taking in to little ;)

I don't know if I have or not have any thyroid problems.. The last time the doctor checked she made me drink water while she was checking my thyroid and she said there is no problem.. But I don't think this is enough, thats why I asked for blood work

Thyr II which includes T7. TSH, TAT, f-T3, f-T4, T-T3

Yes, the 13% carbs Does not include the veggies carbs, and the cottage cheese, whey protein carbs

I can only tell you how much protein and fats Im aiming for 139 protein, 62 fats and carbs the 2/3 or 3/4 cup dry oats
I don't count the carbs from the veggies, because its mostly fiber

Thursday my ratio will change a little.. protein & fat will decrease by few grams... and carbs increases a little
 
ASU said:
I don't know if I have or not have any thyroid problems.. The last time the doctor checked she made me drink water while she was checking my thyroid and she said there is no problem.. But I don't think this is enough, thats why I asked for blood work

Thyr II which includes T7. TSH, TAT, f-T3, f-T4, T-T3

Yes, the 13% carbs Does not include the veggies carbs, and the cottage cheese, whey protein carbs

I can only tell you how much protein and fats Im aiming for 139 protein, 62 fats and carbs the 2/3 or 3/4 cup dry oats
I don't count the carbs from the veggies, because its mostly fiber

Thursday my ratio will change a little.. protein & fat will decrease by few grams... and carbs increases a little

Keep us updated about your thyroids.. really hope you don't have any problems with them.

We would really like to see some pics.. bf%.. measurments .. From what I have read your 130lbs not sure your height. If your holding on to some muscle even at 5'3 ish.. I can't imagine you weighing too much.

Everyone has different goals .. so expect that if you are posting up your diet and training you will get a multitude of advice..

I myself would tell you hold on to as much LBM as possible ... Muscle burns calories ;) ... But then again.. I'm very fond of muscles.. tee hee!

Good luck darlin :rose:
 
Thanks Frisky :)
Yes, I will keep you guys updated with my blood test and diet/workouts

what freaks me out is that I used to be 14% body fat and 112-114 lbs last october :(
 
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