What's on YOUR plate?

[Imnotdutch]

Personally I dont have time , nor am I anal enough, to count all of the nutrients that I take in. I'm sure you have an answer to this but what is wrong with popping a few pills to top up the vits and minerals?

BTW what the hell is a cheddar pepper?

Do you guys ever think about your immune system? The repair hub? The hard drive? There are great reasons outside of physique to eat clean(er). Ask yourself what the food has to offer you. It seems like so much focus is placed on what to avoid in food...macronutrients, that the micronutrients that catalyze the building and repair are lost in the shuffle. How many of you know how many water soluble and fat soluble vitamins you get? How many of you complain of joint and tendon pain? I'm not trying to get preachy...I gotsta have my cheddar peppers, but really. Eating crap food 24/7 isn't something that makes you tougher, it deprives you of vitamins and minerals that your body needs to keep up with what you do to it. Bfold comes to mind. He's one big mofo. His policy? Get all your nutrients in, and THEN start piling whatever the hell you want on top of that...but don't neglect the building blocks that put you on the pedestal in the first place. Eat the pizza and burritos if you must, but throw in a veggie or something too. At least you will absorb more of the nutrients in the pizza, and lower the insulin spike too.
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[AnimalMass1]

Well, I agree and disagree here.

I know the way genemachine eats, and he doesn't eat vegetables or fruits, but he does get his protein in and his carbs (and plenty of fat.)

Now I think GM can do better at getting in his vitamins, antioxidants, etc. through veggies and whatnot, but I don't think there is any reason to be a bodybuilder when you want to weigh 300 lbs.

I think BFold has the right attitude however. Make sure you are getting what you need, and then pile anything and everything on top of that.

AnimalMass

 

[genemachine]

Those veggies have been haunting me since I was a child... First mom, then you guys Ok, I'll add the veggies. Food has lost its taste anyway... off to the fridge.....

 

[spatts]

dutch, or not dutch as the case may be, there's nothing wrong with vitamins and minerals as supplements. I take them as insurance. They aren't absorbed as well though. Food is better, as always. 2nd best is probably good enough.

Oh, my....cheddar peppers are these nifty little hot peppers stuffed with cheese and deep fried. Fried foods make me sick, in general, but I'm willing to feel like crap for these now and then.

Since when does putting the best gas in your car, so to speak, make you a bodybuilder? Like I told Genemahine earlier, anyone can put on shit weight. So you throw on 50 pounds in 2 months. More crap under your skin to move. It's not muscle...it MIGHT be leverage up to a point, but count on being slower. Why not take your time, treat your body right, and put on MUSCLE. Hell yeah, it would be great to hit 300. Hitting it at 15% fat rather than 50% would be nice too.

Concrete supports more weight than mud.

 

[beercan89]

I eat like crap too, but there's a point when it becomes counterproductive. Spatts had a valid point with the concrete and mud analogy. Eating pasta will get you a lot further in a workout than chips and soda, as will protein shakes do more for your recovery than these items. After business is taken care of, I'll throw down some bacon cheddar burgers....

One more suggestion for the poster (and anyone else for that matter) would be to take 4 scoops of nlarge with 2 grams of c powder and 5 grams of creatine right after training...

 

[AnimalMass1]

I agree beercan. (Except I don't know what 2 grams of c powder is?) - (cocaine?-lol)

But I can speak for GM when I say that he and I both have big ass protein shakes after working out.

As a matter of fact, after all this talk where it looks like I eat like shit all the time, let me share my eating habits with you all...

5:00am - protein shake (30g fast acting high quality whey plus 50g dextrose and 5 grams creatine.) - This is to get some carbs and protein in me quick since I work out at 5:30.

5:30am - workout

7:00am - post workout - protein shake with 100g protein, 100g dextrose, and 5 grams creatine. (vitamin, other pills that you don't care about)

9:00am - breakfast (usually either eating out at staff meeting where I have chicken fried steak and eggs, or a chicken sandwhich, etc. - or if at home I have a huge glass of whole milk (64oz.), and some form of leftovers (hamburger helper, etc.)

12:00pm - Hamburger Helper, Taco Salad, Pizza, Chicken Fingers, etc.

3:00pm - Usually another huge glass of milk (64oz.) and some other form of food (whatever I can find) - but 64oz of whole milk gives me a pretty good amount of protein, carbs, and fat.

6:00pm - Dinner with wife (This is the most balanced meal of the day, usually including a lean meat (chicken, lean beef, crawfish tonight , and rice of some sort, with vegetables and maybe a can of pineapple.)

8:00pm - Another huge glass of milk and maybe a dessert of some sort.

10:00-11:00pm - Casein Protein Shake (50g) along with a big nasty swig of flaxseed oil.


Not enough of vegetables, although I usually have some form of green vegetable at least once per day, either at breakfast or dinner.

Also, all along this time I drink everything in sight. In a day I drink a full gallon of milk, at least 4 20oz glasses of water (not counting the 64oz of water or gatorade I drink during my workout), and another 5-6 glasses of soda (I know - it's horrible for you, but I'm a powerlifter and don't drink coffee, so lay off.


AnimalMass

 

[Imnotdutch]

Ok I see where you are coming from........I only wish i had time to count everything that I eat........I wish I had time to eat everything that I wanted to eat And Iwish I had time to train asoften as I wanted too. So for now, second best it has to be (sometimes I wish I had a 9-5 office job that I can just forget about when I go home).

I do take your point about not wanting all of that fat........I'm happy to maintain weight so long as I am getting stronger.

BTW I hope I didn't come across as an ass in that last post.......

dutch, or not dutch as the case may be, there's nothing wrong with vitamins and minerals as supplements. I take them as insurance. They aren't absorbed as well though. Food is better, as always. 2nd best is probably good enough.

Oh, my....cheddar peppers are these nifty little hot peppers stuffed with cheese and deep fried. Fried foods make me sick, in general, but I'm willing to feel like crap for these now and then.

Since when does putting the best gas in your car, so to speak, make you a bodybuilder? Like I told Genemahine earlier, anyone can put on shit weight. So you throw on 50 pounds in 2 months. More crap under your skin to move. It's not muscle...it MIGHT be leverage up to a point, but count on being slower. Why not take your time, treat your body right, and put on MUSCLE. Hell yeah, it would be great to hit 300. Hitting it at 15% fat rather than 50% would be nice too.

Concrete supports more weight than mud.

 

[beercan89]

*Vitamin C powder. Keeps cortisol down and cell repair up.

The purpose of the powder is to allow it to be transported directly by the carbs, rather than waiting for a pill to melt in my stomach.

 

[spatts]

I use all liquid sups...similar reasons.