The Sexes

[alien amp pharm]

After reading the Razorguns quote I can safely conclude that I am never going to get laid.

 

[Hiatussin]

I know many women like that. I have to say that though im not brillant i am I'm sharp, sucessful and goal oriented. I'm very level headed and opinionated. I was raised in a home where I couldn't have an opinion. THAT KILLED ME. It wasn't the way I was made up.

Just for the sake of the argument- A lot of women are born, according to them, now and in all times past, with the need to express their opinion. Their influence on culture, science and history has been but a small afterthought compared to mens.

Now of course women weren´t stimulated for this or expected or accepted to have profound opinions about public issues- But you claim you "couldn´t live this life" and having an outspoken opinion is an innate part of you.
I talked to a truely brilliant girl a while ago- I didn´t speak to her long enough to really gauge her but she had an amazing knowledge of history, philosophy, economy and politics that phased me a bit. She claimed, that if she were born in a world where she was expected to go to housekeeping school, then work in a mill until she got married and then cook the man dinner every day till she died, she would definately shrivel up and kill herself. This is what all women of feminism and of after-feminism say. Yet it took them so long to break these boundaries.

If the "female publically concerned intellect" is so strong and innate, why isn´t history filled with depressed women who aren´t reaching their potentials, trying to find a way out? Nobody seemed to really give a shit before Virginia Woolf (generally). It does appear to be Zeitgeist-learned behaviour for women to be so inquisitive and involved, rather than natural.

Of course perhaps a man raised in a reversely sexist world would react in much the same way. This must have started somewhere though (like another current thread deals with)

 

[foreigngirl]

He's a purty smart fecker. he wrote the first post. Don't know how much of that he actually believes, but if he subscribes to it, I hope his g.f. is the one, 'cause he ain't gonna find another one. Unless he goes into the mountains of Bulgaria, Latvia, Afghanistan, or any other 2nd or 3rd world country.
IMO, many women are my equal, some are superior. It's not their gender, it's their brains, work ethic, or moral compass that makes them so.

lol @ this. But still cant be generalized if women are from 2nd or 3rd world country that they are gonna be weak and obeying. It all depends on the culture and religion.

 

[seizer]

lol @ this. But still cant be generalized if women are from 2nd or 3rd world country that they are gonna be weak and obeying. It all depends on the culture and religion.

That's why he picked those cultures.

Hiatussin, I dont completely agree with your initial post, but I respect it ALOT because of how insightful it is. Same with the follow-up by JayC.

Again, good reads.

 

[HiDnGoD]

lol @ this. But still cant be generalized if women are from 2nd or 3rd world country that they are gonna be weak and obeying. It all depends on the culture and religion.

Ooooooooopps. My bad, LOL.
I picked those place with just a vague idea of cultural & religious norms there.
I could have just as easily said the back woods of Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. Lotta Mennonites around here.
My point was, if you, as a man, think that you can lay the law down & have your woman docilely go along with what you say, you're in trouble. Or if you think that you are an innately better thinker, smarter, or wiser person, 'cause you are a guy, then you're missing out on a lot of fresh ideas.
If you are all that, then it's because you were born like that, not because you're a guy.

 

[BrothaBill]

Not reading the thread, but the analysis of the second paragraph is true with very few exceptions unfortunately as I review my Univ. work on the subject. Not sure why females are so bad thinking theoretically and viewing truths in a vacuum in order to conduct an experiment but my experience is that they are down right horrible at it, even the smart ones.
To devise experiments in order to correlate, just one step of a longtidunal study, its like their brain freezes and I mean 4.0 PHd students

 

[foreigngirl]

Ooooooooopps. My bad, LOL.
I picked those place with just a vague idea of cultural & religious norms there.
I could have just as easily said the back woods of Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada. Lotta Mennonites around here.
My point was, if you, as a man, think that you can lay the law down & have your woman docilely go along with what you say, you're in trouble. Or if you think that you are an innately better thinker, smarter, or wiser person, 'cause you are a guy, then you're missing out on a lot of fresh ideas.
If you are all that, then it's because you were born like that, not because you're a guy.

IMO the father has a huge influence on how the son is gonna treat the women. If the father expects of the mother to serve him day in and day out - the son is gonna want the same thing; if the father is helping with the house chores - the son is gonna do the same thing. In my country I've seen both types of men, but I always stumbled across a man that wants to dominate in everything

 

[HiDnGoD]

IMO the father has a huge influence on how the son is gonna treat the women. If the father expects of the mother to serve him day in and day out - the son is gonna want the same thing; if the father is helping with the house chores - the son is gonna do the same thing. In my country I've seen both types of men, but I always stumbled across a man that wants to dominate in everything

In my case, my father, even though at the time I disrespected him severely, taught me how to treat women.
I looked at my Dad as a wuss. A half man that let my mother push him around, & waited on her like a servant.
I am my father's son. There are not many things worth arguing about, so we rarely argue. I now treat my wife, almost the same way my Dad treated my Mom. He taught me, being a man isn't all bluster & proving your right all the time. I wish my Mom was still alive, so I could tell her what I've been taught.

 

[foreigngirl]

In my case, my father, even though at the time I disrespected him severely, taught me how to treat women.
I looked at my Dad as a wuss. A half man that let my mother push him around, & waited on her like a servant.
I am my father's son. There are not many things worth arguing about, so we rarely argue. I now treat my wife, almost the same way my Dad treated my Mom. He taught me, being a man isn't all bluster & proving your right all the time. I wish my Mom was still alive, so I could tell her what I've been taught.

In my case, my dad was bossing me around way too much and thats why I dont like to be bossed around and told what to do. My husbands dad - he wanted to be catored to (still does) and my husband expected the same thing from me. But it didnt happen. I still do everything for him, but within limits. At least I dont put his socks on for him

 

[Hiatussin]

In my case, my dad was bossing me around way too much and thats why I dont like to be bossed around and told what to do. My husbands dad - he wanted to be catored to (still does) and my husband expected the same thing from me. But it didnt happen. I still do everything for him, but within limits. At least I dont put his socks on for him

it sounds like you´re contradicting yourself

do you do everything for him or not