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The Sexes

Evil_Frisky said:
I skimmed thru this and had enough. Your view of women, including your mother and girlfriend are disgusting. Maybe its the way you are raised, hell I don't know. But pull that shit with a strong independant woman and see how far you get.

Men like you want women to feel inferior so that you can feel superior. That my dear is what I call weak. Stomp them down so that you feel atop the world.

You know i like you but I don't agree with your view of women at all. Its very piggish imo. Sure you will find a woman that will let you treat her like shes below you if you look hard enough... good luck in that.


you may be a bright boy but you have ALOT to learn about women.



Even a "strong independant woman" can agree with the first post without being one of "those" women. To agree with a theory does'nt mean you ARE what you're agreeing with. They are just theories and conclusions that can be debated. That does'nt mean they are dividers of people, sexes, etc...
 
gonelifting said:
Even a "strong independant woman" can agree with the first post without being one of "those" women. To agree with a theory does'nt mean you ARE what you're agreeing with. They are just theories and conclusions that can be debated. That does'nt mean they are dividers of people, sexes, etc...

some parts are dead on, but most are just a very male ego way making yourself feel almighty.

I am single, mom of two, very sucessful, and wouldn't take a man treating me the way some men feel women SHOULD be treated.

Maybe im just a bitch like that
 
milo hobgoblin said:
evil frisky.. I dont think Hiatussin actually wrote that. I think he just beleives in some of it.
He's a purty smart fecker. he wrote the first post. Don't know how much of that he actually believes, but if he subscribes to it, I hope his g.f. is the one, 'cause he ain't gonna find another one. Unless he goes into the mountains of Bulgaria, Latvia, Afghanistan, or any other 2nd or 3rd world country.
IMO, many women are my equal, some are superior. It's not their gender, it's their brains, work ethic, or moral compass that makes them so.
 
Evil_Frisky said:
I skimmed thru this and had enough. Your view of women, including your mother and girlfriend are disgusting. Maybe its the way you are raised, hell I don't know. But pull that shit with a strong independant woman and see how far you get.

Men like you want women to feel inferior so that you can feel superior. That my dear is what I call weak. Stomp them down so that you feel atop the world.

You know i like you but I don't agree with your view of women at all. Its very piggish imo. Sure you will find a woman that will let you treat her like shes below you if you look hard enough... good luck in that.


you may be a bright boy but you have ALOT to learn about women.

I was raised in a family where definately mom defined the emotions and dad the thoughts.

My father is pretty sexist in daily life, complaining about womens lack of scientific insight, driving skills and their irrational nature dealing with a specific woman at the time. My mom would respond by attacking his lack of decorum, tact and social qualities and saying he´s just finding an excuse for the fact that he can´t live with someone without having small conflicts.
That sounds like I´m from a broken home. None of this would be accompanied by anger or shouting though. More like fought-out-long-ago sarcasm.

He´s never generalised and said things about "women in general" like my first post did. When I do, in front of him, he rejects it immediately and argues against it.

You seem to conclude I treat girls as though they are "below" me. I am in fact very chivalrous, polite and kind to them and even sexually I´m at least as focussed on her enjoyment as my own. I am dating a girl who can´t handle me in debates though and she does usually end up giving in when we have a difference of opinion.
 
milo hobgoblin said:
evil frisky.. I dont think Hiatussin actually wrote that. I think he just beleives in some of it.
I did write it, but the general idea of it comes from a book I read last year.
 
Hiatussin said:
I was raised in a family where definately mom defined the emotions and dad the thoughts.

My father is pretty sexist in daily life, complaining about womens lack of scientific insight, driving skills and their irrational nature dealing with a specific woman at the time. My mom would respond by attacking his lack of decorum, tact and social qualities and saying he´s just finding an excuse for the fact that he can´t live with someone without having small conflicts.
That sounds like I´m from a broken home. None of this would be accompanied by anger or shouting though. More like fought-out-long-ago sarcasm.

He´s never generalised and said things about "women in general" like my first post did. When I do, in front of him, he rejects it immediately and argues against it.

You seem to conclude I treat girls as though they are "below" me. I am in fact very chivalrous, polite and kind to them and even sexually I´m at least as focussed on her enjoyment as my own. I am dating a girl who can´t handle me in debates though and she does usually end up giving in when we have a difference of opinion.


Debates about what?

Really? You define a relationship on debates about history, philosophy? So maybe she's not as brillant as you but why belittle her by trying to debate these things? Why not TEACH her? Take what you learn and build something together instead of puffing out your chest because she can't handle a debate with you.

I'm not trying to slam you i just think you need to open up a bit
 
Evil_Frisky said:
Debates about what?

Really? You define a relationship on debates about history, philosophy? So maybe she's not as brillant as you but why belittle her by trying to debate these things? Why not TEACH her? Take what you learn and build something together instead of puffing out your chest because she can't handle a debate with you.

I'm not trying to sloa m
I don´t feel I´m trying to belittle her. I don´t "pick" debates with her your post just made me think about the times that they did happen and yes usually she ended up subscribing to my opinion. She´s really very infatuated with me and I do wonder sometimes if she´d thinking for herself and standing up for her opinions enough.

She has hobbies and friends I dislike that she still enjoys and continues though. I don´t think I rule her life. We usually meet because she has time at that moment, not me. I tried to convince to choose another major in university but she perseveres.

In her family mom is the smartest, the most motivated and organised and definately the most assertive, leading person. Her father is a bit of a drag-along and I never really respected him (I stay polite of course and keep quiet rather than let him know)

You got me thinking about whether she is assertive enough. I think she is. She came onto me when we met btw, not the other way around.
 
Hiatussin said:
I don´t feel I´m trying to belittle her. I don´t "pick" debates with her your post just made me think about the times that they did happen and yes usually she ended up subscribing to my opinion. She´s really very infatuated with me and I do wonder sometimes if she´d thinking for herself and standing up for her opinions enough.

She has hobbies and friends I dislike that she still enjoys and continues though. I don´t think I rule her life. We usually meet because she has time at that moment, not me.



Could you be with a woman that was strong and opinionated?
 
Evil_Frisky said:
Could you be with a woman that was strong and opinionated?
My sister is an attorney and VERY eloquent and opinionated. She gives some of the best coherent sharp verbal shitstorms I´ve experienced when you rile her up. She´s never going to be a desk worker at a law firm, she´s a speaker who can and wants to speak to judges and juries.

I know her other side though, how jealous she can be concerning her man, how insecure and childish she gets, how much she really wants to be "protected" (she even confides me in that)

I don´t think I could fall in love with a girl until I she has shown her weaker side, be it purposely or by accident. Attraction may be greater as the contrast between these sides grows.

I don´t think I could be with either a "loser softie" or a "rock". You need both. I think we all have both in us.
 
Hiatussin said:
My sister is an attorney and VERY eloquent and opinionated. She gives some of the best coherent sharp verbal shitstorms I´ve experienced when you rile her up.

I know her other side though, how jealous she can be concerning her man, how insecure and childish she gets, how much she really wants to be "protected" (she even confides me in that)


I know many women like that. I have to say that though im not brillant i am I'm sharp, sucessful and goal oriented. I'm very level headed and opinionated. I was raised in a home where I couldn't have an opinion. THAT KILLED ME. It wasn't the way I was made up.
 
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