help with post workout nutrition very confused?

[test-monkey]

proteinfactory.com unreliable? Bah.

Give this a shot.

thanks

 

[Dave949]

You made a comment that the old timers (Arnold) never used whey or supps. First off, Whey has been around for a long, long time and it was used in protein powders 30 years ago. Its just that recently some marketer had a brilliant idea to make it sound new or special and waalaa.....whey became a MAJOR buzz word. Back in the mid 70`s when I was around 16 years old and first started to lift and buy protein powders, I remember reading the ingredients and seeing whey protein listed and I used to wonder what the hell whey was !!!! I figured it was some kind of vegetable based protein. (I was 16, gimmie a break)
Also.... the old timers used to use powdered milk mixed in with regular or low fat milk to increase their protein intake. Bascially you were getting the nutrition/protein of 2 or 3 glasses of milk but only drinking one glass. Needless to say, it was very cost effective at increasing protein intake. The old timers also used dessicated liver tabs a lot. BIG TIME in fact. Dessicated liver was a VERY popular supp at one time and it was a staple with serious lifters. Dessicated liver is still around. I know Dave Draper offers it on his website. Its made by Beverly International. I`m waiting for the day that some marketer "re-invents" liver tabs and it will be the next big "new" thing. There is nothing new under the sun and that goes for your basic B.B. supps as well................
So yes..... the old timers did use supps

 

[test-monkey]

You made a comment that the old timers (Arnold) never used whey or supps. First off, Whey has been around for a long, long time and it was used in protein powders 30 years ago. Its just that recently some marketer had a brilliant idea to make it sound new or special and waalaa.....whey became a MAJOR buzz word. Back in the mid 70`s when I was around 16 years old and first started to lift and buy protein powders, I remember reading the ingredients and seeing whey protein listed and I used to wonder what the hell whey was !!!! I figured it was some kind of vegetable based protein. (I was 16, gimmie a break)
Also.... the old timers used to use powdered milk mixed in with regular or low fat milk to increase their protein intake. Bascially you were getting the nutrition/protein of 2 or 3 glasses of milk but only drinking one glass. Needless to say, it was very cost effective at increasing protein intake. The old timers also used dessicated liver tabs a lot. BIG TIME in fact. Dessicated liver was a VERY popular supp at one time and it was a staple with serious lifters. Dessicated liver is still around. I know Dave Draper offers it on his website. Its made by Beverly International. I`m waiting for the day that some marketer "re-invents" liver tabs and it will be the next big "new" thing. There is nothing new under the sun and that goes for your basic B.B. supps as well................
So yes..... the old timers did use supps

I am not totaly against supplements if you have pure whey protein it's fine, but have you read the back of supplement lables lately?
it's not just whey or dextrose it's a ton of stuff like food coloring corn starch artifical flavoring and I can go on for while.
also I remeber franco columbo saying he does not recomend whey protein because it's a dead protein what ever that means. all I know is that suplements will never replace real food

 

[Big Jroy]

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