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Here is a sample cycle:
Weeks 1-8 Eat 5000 Cals a day
Week 1-8 Dead Lift, Squats, Benchpress
PCT Eat some more
Weeks 1-8 Eat 5000 Cals a day
Week 1-8 Dead Lift, Squats, Benchpress
PCT Eat some more
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dark-knight
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how long have you been lifting for? for the first couple of years of training hard and eating more of the right foods you will grow like a weed, especially at your age.
Militant80
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Your welcome bro. If your gonna do it then anavar is a good place to start. Ive not tried it but read up on it and know its one of the milder ones. Nolva should be sufficient for anavar PCT. If you do start then keep comin back to the site. You can never know too much and people (most of us anyway) are pleased to help. Ive learnt so much from readin these forums. This time last year i knew piss all about steroids.
been lifting since i was 16ish. fair bit of experience with weights. but been on and off with it along with my swimming. however havent swum for a while now because i been going awesome with my MMA so been trying to get bigger and stronger. so i been pretty serious lately with weights. seeing some growth.
one more reason for me to get on them is that im curretnly being sponsored for my MMA fights. and basically all of these guys i'm fighting are on the gear. it sucks because they are getting this advantage and i been going natural. been winning most of my fights however if i was to get to the top ill prob be forced into these (by my sponsors, so they can get their name heard when i win basically)
what should i do?
Militant80
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Ah this changes the equation slightly. If your in a competetive sport and your oponents are on them i can see why you feel pressured to start them. If your still making good gains with natural training though id wait till you have hit a platau before starting. I starting taking them once i reached a point when i just couldnt grow much more but if your gettin bigger now then there may not be any need to start cycling yet (especially if your winning your fights). Its not fair for your sponsors to put pressure on you. Its not their body, its just profit to them. But i know what you mean, they just wanna see you win at whatever cost.
If your into MMA then it depends whether its strength or speed you favour most but things like Dbol will probably slow your speed down a bit as you pack on water weight.
You cant really ask us what you should do in a sense that its YOUR body. Its depends on whats important to you. When you make that choice to start steroids we all know the risks involved and we make a choice on what is important. For me ive always wanted to be bigger. For different reasons, image, pride,confidence, living in a rough neighbourhood, where all factors. I simply decided that my determination to get bigger was worth the risks involved. That was my personal choice. But if your into competetive MMA then its probably inevitable that you will start cycling at some point due to pressure to win from yourself and sponsors. Id maybe hold off for 6 more months and see how you feel. Once you stop improving or start losing fights then maybe think of steppin up to the steds. You can ask advice on what we think is best but to ask if you should or shouldnt start steds its purely a personal choice that you must make. If you do start cycling then the bros here will help with advice but the main issue that i think most people here will say is that if your still making good gains naturally then holding off a bit longer is better. If your winning fights and are good and still all natural just think how proud you would be if you could get close to the top knowing your beating oponents who are technically cheating in a sense and your still natural. If your proressing well, still growing and still winning then why fix something that isnt broken.
If your into MMA then it depends whether its strength or speed you favour most but things like Dbol will probably slow your speed down a bit as you pack on water weight.
You cant really ask us what you should do in a sense that its YOUR body. Its depends on whats important to you. When you make that choice to start steroids we all know the risks involved and we make a choice on what is important. For me ive always wanted to be bigger. For different reasons, image, pride,confidence, living in a rough neighbourhood, where all factors. I simply decided that my determination to get bigger was worth the risks involved. That was my personal choice. But if your into competetive MMA then its probably inevitable that you will start cycling at some point due to pressure to win from yourself and sponsors. Id maybe hold off for 6 more months and see how you feel. Once you stop improving or start losing fights then maybe think of steppin up to the steds. You can ask advice on what we think is best but to ask if you should or shouldnt start steds its purely a personal choice that you must make. If you do start cycling then the bros here will help with advice but the main issue that i think most people here will say is that if your still making good gains naturally then holding off a bit longer is better. If your winning fights and are good and still all natural just think how proud you would be if you could get close to the top knowing your beating oponents who are technically cheating in a sense and your still natural. If your proressing well, still growing and still winning then why fix something that isnt broken.
makes a lot of sene mate. i know exactly what you mean. if i hold off for a while and keep with natural until i plateau out, it will not only make myself feel more proud and respect myself a bit more but also give me time to do more research and buy the products over time rather than rushing into it. I will see how i go with natural. Hopefully i keep winning haha.
Also ill still be able to enjoy my girlfriend without the risk
haha
Also ill still be able to enjoy my girlfriend without the risk
hahaMilitant80
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Good choice mate. If you train hard and reach a platau then you will have earned the right to start cycling. Good luck with the training and competitions anyway bro. If you do start cycling, keep us posted.
why do people cop out when talkin to young bros? its the same thing i read over and over and over, your too young or whatever but if your gonna do it do it this way. i believe people who fequently post should hold a high level of responsibility when on this forum. Just because you started aas when you were 13 and everything turned out fine doesnt mean the same for another bro. However, im not saying your own experience is not relevant. It is hard for some of these young bros to differentiate between someone giving advice and someone simply sharing their experience. It is for me sometimes as well.
Militant80
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HITTucker are you refering to me in that post? If so, i didnt really get your point. Your comment "your too young or whatever but if your gonna do it do it this way". I dont see the issue with that? I agree he is too young and thats my opinion but if he is gonna do it anyway then at least give the guy some idea. Whether he is too young or not if he is gonna do it any way, better he does it with some idea as to what he is doin than do it blindly with no clue! Sorry i just didnt really get your point here. I dont think anyone should be tellin anyone to or not to take steroids but tellin others about your experiences and advice gives them somethin to work off. Of course everyone is different, which is why i stated its his choice. But anyone who starts cycling just cos some guy on a forum had a good experience is just plain stupid.
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