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Eringobraugh said:
Stop using the word rights in those examples, its wrong here. Thats an example of a workplace injustice. It has nothing to do with rights or human rights or natural rights or civil rights.Claims that have some justification behind them. A moral right is a morally justified claim. A legal right is a legally justified claim. When we use the term right without specifying the nature of the justification, we usually mean a moral right. Rights specify the acts that are permitted, forbidden, or required. If they specify the acts that the rights-holder may perform (such as vote, or drive a car), they are often called licenses. If they specify acts that others may not perform (as the right to life obliges others not to kill the rights holder), they are called liberties or negative rights. If they specify what the rights-holder should receive, they are called rights of entitlement or positive rights.
OK - so then what MORAL rights of men have been violated?
 
Beached Whale said:
So what you are saying is that raising children and taking care of a home has ZERO VALUE?
No, It has value, but a man who can't support himself is POS in my book, and prolly your's...
Beached Whale said:
Well no fucking wonder it is "a woman's job" then?
Aren't you the one that says mothers are better parents in this thread?
 
Ulcasterdropout said:
Both parents see the kids 50/50, but the 'dumb bastard' man has to pay most of the childcare related expenses? Nice example :D
Who will raise the children while the mother is made to work a 40 hour work week?

It is a VERY NICE example. Perhaps these men should be more concerned with what is in the best interest of their children and less with trying to fuck their exwives out of childsupport.
 
Ulcasterdropout said:
No, It has value, but a man who can't support himself is POS in my book, and prolly your's...

Aren't you the one that says mothers are better parents in this thread?

If a man is staying home raising MY children, how is it that he is supposed to be supporting himself? MY children are his primary concern and not bringing home money.

I am not the one who give no value to childrearing.

You are.
 
Beached Whale said:
Sorry again you dont know what you are speaking of.

The courts SHOULD FAVOR the better parent.

Guess what?

THEY DONT.

They divide the children 50/50 and the retard bastard man that goes on and on about "what a whore" his exwife is only succeeded in jacking up legal bills, fucking up his kids, and paying a ton of money additionally in childcare related expenses while THEY BOTH work and NEITHER of them has any real time with their children.

THIS IS REALITY.

How many women do you know who have sole physical or even primary residential custody of their children unless both parents agreed to it? Answer? - slim to none.

MOST HAVE 50/50 SPLIT.


last I checked I said it SHOULD be that way not that it is

and actually of the split families I personally know the woman was given primary custody. My godfathers case for example, his wife cheated on him, ruined his credit, got him fired, etc etc and was given custody of her children. SHe then married the other man who quite a lot of money, and still demanded alimony on top of child support, and had him thrown in jail during a lay off period in which he couldn't come up with a full payment despite the fact she was well off financially and didn't need it. Her kids hate her guts too, I've seen letters that the eldest wrote to him proclaiming how much she hates her mother and wish she could live with her father, her mom threatened to have her horse put down though if she went to live with him. Despite all this our legal system still favors a bitch whore cunt like that, tell me how this is justice?
 
Beached Whale said:
Who will raise the children while the mother is made to work a 40 hour work week?
Not the issue...
The issue is equality. Men and women both get 50/50 time raising the kid. Man pays more.
Beached Whale said:
It is a VERY NICE example. Perhaps these men should be more concerned with what is in the best interest of their children and less with trying to fuck their exwives out of childsupport.
Not the issue , again... ( I agree, but another topic)
You pay the same amount of child support when your ex had your kids?
 
Beached Whale said:
Who will raise the children while the mother is made to work a 40 hour work week?

It is a VERY NICE example. Perhaps these men should be more concerned with what is in the best interest of their children and less with trying to fuck their exwives out of childsupport.
ive heard you talk about your kids, i know they are old enough to be in school, so dont play this bullshit card that you have to be home raising them, go to work like most of the women in this country with kids and quit your bitching
 
Austin316 said:
last I checked I said it SHOULD be that way not that it is

and actually of the split families I personally know the woman was given primary custody. My godfathers case for example, his wife cheated on him, ruined his credit, got him fired, etc etc and was given custody of her children. SHe then married the other man who quite a lot of money, and still demanded alimony on top of child support, and had him thrown in jail during a lay off period in which he couldn't come up with a full payment despite the fact she was well off financially and didn't need it. Her kids hate her guts too, I've seen letters that the eldest wrote to him proclaiming how much she hates her mother and wish she could live with her father, her mom threatened to have her horse put down though if she went to live with him. Despite all this our legal system still favors a bitch whore cunt like that, tell me how this is justice?

First off, no woman gets alimony if she remarries. That is fact in all states.

Regardless of how well off her second husband is - IT IS STILL THE FATHER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY FOR HIS CHILDREN.

How old is the child that says she hates her "whore mother"? Is that child 11 - 15? More about hormones and listening to family's hating rhetoric than true feelings.

If a man doesnt pay childsupport he is automatically jailed. That doesnt come from the woman - it comes from the state. If the woman is ordered to pay childsupport (and it happens - surprize/surprize) her ass will be jailed for nonpayment as well. It isnt about the mother or the father - it is about the kids.

Sorry - there are always 3 sides - his side/her side and the truth.

Children are very easily influenced by negative forces. It isnt until they become adults that they fully understand the real picture.
 
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