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Research Chemical SciencesUGFREAKeudomestic
napsgeargenezapharmateuticals domestic-supplypuritysourcelabsResearch Chemical SciencesUGFREAKeudomestic

Dutch bags. Any BBing questions you may have Ill answer in this thread ..

Effective INSULIN use!

Insulin is THE most anabolic hormone in the body. It is also anti-catabolic. Basically anabolism is triggered by inducing intracellular storage of glucose, amino acids, fats and electrolytes. There is a great deal of research that by creating a state of cellular hydration, supraphysiological insulin induces a secondary anabolism and cellular hypertrophy(sweet right?). remember creatine is an amino acid! High levels of Insulin also create a state in which amino acids and glucose cannot leave cells due to the lack of cortisol and glucagon.
-One major downside of insulin use is the fast downregulation of insulin receptor sites. This is generally seen it fatties who dont workout and develop type 2 diabetes.
-So we NEED insulin sensitivity! Some supps proven to enhance insulin sensitivity are ALA, Chromum, Corosolic acid, D-Pinitol, Selenium, 4-hydroxyisoluecine, Phenylalanine, and Gourdin.
-One of my fav mixes that makes a huge difference in results while on(and post) insulin use is as follows. 200 mg Rla, 1000 mg Phenylalanine, 50 mg D-pinitol 2 times daily with insulin and then for 2 times daily for 14 days except add 200 mg 4-hydroxyisoluecine(insulin mimicker).
- Use CLA while on insulin to help keep down fat stores. 6 grams a day works wonders.
-The general rule of 10G of carbs(or appropriate substrate) per i.u of insulin is MANDATORY,
- Humalog(cleared 1.5-3 hours after injection) or Humulin-R(cleared 6-8 hurs after injection) are preffered because they are easier to control. I love the new humulog loaded Kwikpens. :)
- I do NOT recommend running insulin on its own. The synergy with GH, T-3, lutalyse, DNP(yes i said DNP, dont freak)etc is far too great IMHO to pass up.(ill post more on the potential synergy of these products and how best to use them later if anyone is interested) But for the good bros who want to run slin by itself here are a few tips.
1. If using Humalog make sure to injest food at least 15 min before an injection(I.e. post workout chug some calories in your shake with my special concoction and then do your shot like 20 min after in the bathroom. lol)
a. another good mix involving creatine to have beore your slin is 50 grams 50/50 whey/isolate, 10 G Vitargo per iu of insulin, 10 grams creatine, 50 mg of D-pinitol and/or 200 mg ALA, 5 grams good omega 3 supp.
2. Eat a large solid food meal(with at least 7 G carbs per IU of slin) no more than 1.5 hours after this shake(preferably 1 hour) then ANOTHER similar meal 2 hours after that one.



Ok so Im bored here is a little teaser on the GH/Slin synergy.
. Slin is hypo glycemin, GH is hyperglycemic
2. Inslulin is fat storing, GH is fat releasing
3. Slin promotes roughly 50% of the amino acids needed for growth and repair, GH does the other half
4. Slin increases t-4 conversion to t-3, GH decreases liver conversion of t-4 to t-3
5. Slin and GH stiumlate each others receptor sites when plasma levels are supraphysiological. GH converts to IGF-1 in the liverand stimlates IGF-1 in muscle. Stacking both gets a LOT of IGF-1 into the system.

and ill leave you all with a little intermediate AAS user 1st time GH/slin/t-4 stack that works wonders

Slin- 7 iu 2xd
GH 2 iu 2-3xd
T-4 200 mcg/d



Happy growing!






:p
 
SublimeZM said:
so if im just about to walk out the door would it hurt to just down a shake or something, on my way to whatever im doing.

or will that much whey fuck up my system and not even be worth it,

so basically always just eat protein i can stuff down my throat

you are starting to understand brother! :evil:
 
Wulfgar said:
I need to see some stats broly
training experince, height, weight, and estimated BF%, and the general training program you are doing

I am guessing you are a pretty prototypical ecto

hook me up with the info and Ill break it down for you


Yes very much an ecto unfortunately. My staple routine has been the 5x5 that MadCow was advocating on here a while back concentrating on full body 3x per week with a heavy, light and medium day and lots of compund lifts. Every 8-10 weeks or so I change to doing a more typical bodybuilder style split of higher reps and more isolation stuff for 2-3 weeks to mix things up a bit and to keep things more interesting. I do pretty much no cardio now (used to do a lot of long distance running for many years when i was younger which probably doesn't help, I'm 23 now).

Have been training on and off for 3 years, with proper consistency for the last 1 1/2 but am still only 165lbs at 5'11. BF is lowish, around 12-15% (I have like a 4-pack going on with fat covering the lower abs, although I'm not really bothered about losing abs at the moment I'd rather gain mass first). My body composition has is gradually changing, I'm looking more defined but I'm not really putting any size on (I weigh pretty much the same as I did when I started) and before I take my shirt off you wouldn't really know that i work out at all.

I understand that the body is supposed to be able to get used to eating 6+ meals throughout the day but in a year and a half I'm still just choking down all the meals with no appetite so was hoping there was something I could take that is a proven appetite stimulator that isn't weed! I am all natty of course, not that I have anything against the juice, I'm just nowhere near my genetic potential naturally yet.
 
SublimeZM said:
i already eat so much though, i thought too much excess protein cals (specially since im natty) would just make me fat
naw man
you would be the first person in histroy to get fat off of tuna, chicken egg whites and protien powder
the thermic effect of protein is too high to let you get fat.
 
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