Diet is the key..

[BIGBUCK$]

you couldnt have said it any better xrsist =)

 

[fpc4ever]

i've been trying to bulk the last few months but i'm really not getting anywhere. i'm currently 26, 6'2", 180, I would estimate around 12% bf but idk. I quit lifting for a couple years and got back into in consistently around May of this year, so I've lifted eod for the last 4-5 months. I eat egg beaters and bran cereal fist meal, something like chicken breast, broccoli, brown rice for dinner, and a whole grain turkey sandwich w/ apple and natural peanut butter later along with 2 muscle milk shakes every day. I don't count my calories or measure anything out but I'm guessing I get 3-3500 calories a day. I do mit cardio on about half of my off days and I've stayed around 180. I've been getting a lot stronger but to gain weight and mass should I just try to add in one more meal every day? Any suggestions would help.

 

[jhondo]

If one moron tells someone its okay to do something stupid they will do it.

But if ten knowing people tell that same person the right thing to do, they will be ignored.

Guys, for the AAS newbies that do take good advice to heart, thanks for your time and efforts.

 

[jhondo]

Wow, this thing won't let you get away with any acronyms or abbreviations at all, will it?

 

[Tatyana]

Great thread.
I feel like a douche because I write this all the time:

"I am 250 with 8 abs and I grow nicely off 275/week"

If one moron tells someone its okay to do something stupid they will do it.
Everyone wants to think the magic is in the gear.
Until they get older and wiser they will not realize its the food. Whole foods!

So true, the first 'diet' principles that I took on quite soon after becoming a veggie is a macrobiotic diet, which basically is traditional Japanese food.

Basic meal:

whole grain (brown rice, quinoa, millet, buckwheat, amaranth, barley, oats, rye)
which was the CARB

Bean [lentils, garbanzo beans/chickpeas, pinto beans, aduki beans, soya beans (also tofu/tempeh), kidney beans]

which was the PROTEIN (now I eat beans as a carb source)

Sea vegetable/sea weed hijiki, kelp, nori, arame, agar agar

Vegetables-really varied but macrobiotics avoid deadly nightshade plants (tomatoes, eggplant/aubergine)and also avoid spinach and potatoes, and include odd things like daikon/mooli, burdock root, lotus root, kale, shitake mushrooms

Flavouring/pickles tamari,shoyu, gomashio (ground and roasted sesame seeds, black and white), umeboshi plum paste and vinegar, mirin (rice wine vinegar), barley malt, brown rice syrup, miso

Fats sesame seeds, sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, toasted sesame seed oil, olive oil, walnuts


Fruit Locally grown and in season is favoured, apples are BIG

This diet is all about balance, nothing too yin (female/sugar), nothing too yang (male/salt), and that your food is your medicine.

That FOOD IS YOUR MEDICINE, is not a new principle, Hippocrates first stated this, and it is also found in aryuvedic (Indian) cooking as well.

So you want to get big, you want to lose weight, guess what, food is anabolic, eat the right things and you will burn fat.

Personally if I see another diet that lists like:

Breakfast: Oats and protein shake

Mid morning: Protein shake

Lunch: One tin tuna and baked potatoe or salad

Mid afternoon: see below

Pre workout: Protein shake

Post workout: protein shake with raw eggs

Evening: One tin tuna/chicken breast and veggies or salad

Before bed: protein shake

I think I might SCREAM. There is this thing called cooking where you can combine all sorts of ingredients to make them taste really really GOOD

 

[Tatyana]

i've been trying to bulk the last few months but i'm really not getting anywhere. i'm currently 26, 6'2", 180, I would estimate around 12% bf but idk. I quit lifting for a couple years and got back into in consistently around May of this year, so I've lifted eod for the last 4-5 months. I eat egg beaters and bran cereal fist meal, something like chicken breast, broccoli, brown rice for dinner, and a whole grain turkey sandwich w/ apple and natural peanut butter later along with 2 muscle milk shakes every day. I don't count my calories or measure anything out but I'm guessing I get 3-3500 calories a day. I do mit cardio on about half of my off days and I've stayed around 180. I've been getting a lot stronger but to gain weight and mass should I just try to add in one more meal every day? Any suggestions would help.

Ok start a new thread.

I think there are a few telling phrases

1. I don't count my calories

2. I don't measure anything out

3. I'm guessing

I am a firm believer that you do need to do a food diary, count the calories, weigh everything figure out your macros.

If you do it once or twice for a week or two, you will find you have set meals.

It is annoying and time consuming at first, it does get a lot easier, you will find you can eyeball things.

 

[Bruce]

your on doAgram.com forum. everyone here thinks steroids are magic. there wouldn't be a thing to spell out steroids when you type in eq or deca. cause the only reason you have that is that no one has a fucking clue what they are doing here

 

[OMEGA]

Great Post

Diet is key for Bloat too

have cut back on aromatase inhibitor use to very low l and since diet has been SUPER CLEAN almost NO bloat.

 

[Acela]

thread of the week

 

[Hybridtheory2o]

I appreciate this thread but what good is it if we keep talking about diet and the types of diets we dont like to see when we dont give good examples of what to eat? I understand if you dont eat right you shouldnt be doing gear but what I dont get is we make everyone figure shit out by themselves. Ive been searching on the diet forum for bulking and cutting diets but it appears to me that no vets post in there..they all post in the steroid section..here we are talking about diet pertaining to not using aas's in the aas forum. While it ties into AAS somewhat its not helping anybody.

You can tell ppl not to do something over and over and over again but it does absolutely nothing if you dont tell them why or give them advice. Personally my diet is pretty bland and I just bought the Ebook burn the fat feed the muscle to further my knowledge with the diet.

I think we should make a list of the good things to eat. I understand the whole deal about whole foods. But we need to make a list in the diet forum or here for the ppl that dont know and dont have time to read alllll these books.

heres what i eat

Eggs
Oats
Steak
Chicken
Salad
Fish

sometimes i use splenda sometimes i snack on plain yogurt with blue berries in it. What do you guys eat?